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Upate in progress?
Is there an update currently in progress

 2:17 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am seeing updated results on

These were also visible for a short time yesterday on Google UK.

Is there an update in progress?

Does anyone else see any change?



 7:13 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ok, google's results are really messed up right now, my latest finding...

A search for: my business name llc


position 1: form an llc site
position 2: some electricity site
(google's link to this site: [https:...] with no domain name)
position 3: my site with two sub-listings, one being eBay
postion 4: some directory site with a link title of "Find my business name LLC at domain.com Directory"

I have not seen results like these since, dare I say it, Florida.


 7:15 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

>It's rolling update now guys, so there is *always* an update in progress!

That has been true for a good long while now, but what I saw yesterday involved far more notable changes than the patterns of the past six months or so. But I don't want to talk much more about it at this point since it may have been a glimpse of ether.


 7:24 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>a whole bunch of new sites that I had not seen before in the SERP's

I'm seeing new competitors' new sites poping up for a change, one site is less than 3 months old.


 7:41 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)



 8:07 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Any chance of a data center where these new results are showing?


 8:22 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

I posted a Thread on last saturday that i noted a significantly different SERP on www and surely that was a big change in algo. (i guess the thread was not approved). The SERP changed just in 15 minutes and I never saw them again.

any specific DC where the changes are visible?


 8:40 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am seeing PageRank fluctuations!


 8:43 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)



 8:45 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

It was brief...
I saw one site go from 5 to 0 and back to 5.
I have another site that was 0 and is now 5. It has never ranked up until today.

All the other sites I checked are unchanged.

I'm going to say with 95% confidence that something is happening...just not sure what yet. ;)


 8:49 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

fingures crossed!
what i saw on saturday was really worst then ever personally and overall too.


 8:49 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

hmm the directory is down


 8:59 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

The directory is up for me but with a slight update: the PR of a site that is listed with its old domain and that was previously shown with PR0 in the directory, now has PR3. The strange thing: the old domain is 301ed to the new.


 9:04 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

I may be crying wolf on this one, but I have this one site that I know was zero, because it was new and is now 5, but I cannot find any other examples of fluctuations.

What led me to check the PageRank of my sites in the first place was the toolbar zeroed out for two sites and then returned to the original value (5).


 9:07 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

I keep get page not found, but just in that category, i did not try any other.

I hope they clean up ALL the mess they have done here the last 2 month, with all that dublicated sites.


 9:12 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

it also appears that G has reverted back to a DMOZ dump that it had before it reverted back to an even older dump a few months back. My site had dropped because when G reverted to the older dump, I wasn't listed.

I just got a new G alert that listed the DMOZ listing - this is the second one I got (the first being when this dir update initally was released).

Must be that they had some hardware problems and hard to revert back to old data.


 9:49 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)


has anyone experienced this:

siteX is in categoryZ, in Google Directory, you do a "Search only in categoryZ" for siteX, and "did not match any documents" is the result.

all other sites in the category come out when searched for siteNAME only...

Now if I do the same thing in dmoz.org, siteX appears…

any ideas?


 9:58 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

What I saw was a *big* change. Already posted the DC's where I saw it. But it was only there for a short while and I don't see it now.


 12:35 am on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

I saw a change this morning too but it's gone now. I have a "sandboxed" site (new in February). It ranks well on many terms but not one primary phrase. This primary phrase was up to position 13 in the SERP's earlier today on some data centers. I also saw it there for a brief minute on 11/9/2004.


 12:47 am on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

I noticed that goog.de and 66.102.99 data centers are quite a bit different than google.com.


 2:20 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Seeing big changes to serps here in the UK. Pages I've never seen before now high in serps.

I've dropped from long time held positions 1 & 2 for about 100 pages and am now no higher than 8 for any.

I'm still seeing a few clicks for my pages because the ones that have replaced mine don't seem as relevant. Previously if I was 8th I'd see almost no clicks.

Didn't this happen just before Xmas last year?


 2:33 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

No changes at all here on the east coast. (yet!) Very steady in fact across the data centers we watch.


 3:00 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hey MyWifeSays, have you checked your page rank or your backlinks for the site that moved down in the serps?

One of my sites backlinks were set to 0 and I lost 1 pagerank. My interior pages seem to be fine though.


 3:28 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)


My PR remains the same (as shown by the green bar). Same with backlinks. I haven't tried to find what different data centers are saying though.

The thing is, it's not only my page dropping. The serps seem quite different although I must admit I haven't paid that much attention to sites below me.

If others don't see what I'm seeing over the next day or two, then I'll have to assume it's just my site and that I'm mistaken over the serps being quite different.


 3:45 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just noticed something strange.

When searching for "m s word" (replace word with anything), the serps don't show titles with 'm s' in - they all seem to be ms.

Similarly for other letters.

Anybody else seeing that?


 3:45 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

mywifesays, I have also noticed the change in serps. My pages have been on the first page of google for over a year on various keyword phrases and now on the second. The only thing I can see is my backlinks for only my homepage have been set to 0. I don't think there should be any reason for me to be penalized.


 4:37 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)


it's not usually adviseable to take much notice of googles backlinks. it could be a factor but they don't usually show them all and changes don't usually coincide with changes in the pages position in the serps.

backlinks are very important in googles algo. but the ones they show don't appear to be related to the ones they use in their calculations.

how are your other pages doing in the serps? if they too have lost ground but still show backlinks then you are probably safe looking elsewhere for the change in position.


 4:47 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

My four sites have slided from the top 10 to pages 2 and 3. I wasn't into SEO when Florida took place. Now I understand what that would have meant. Earnings today =zilch. Pray.


 4:50 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)


It seems that all pages have lost ground. Interior pages backlinks have remained the same.

Maybe it is due to an algo change. I guess we always have to stay on our toes!


 5:33 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

My traffic's up.



 5:54 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

My traffic is up, as always.


 6:04 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yikes. From 3 to 11. Not good. The only differnce I can figure is that I haven't updated in a couple of months. PR is the same. I got a couple of new links to my articles. Yippee! A fat lot of good it's done me! Yes, I know...

I've been numbers 3 to 5 or so for a couple of years. Gotta get to work!

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