| 8:44 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|Why do people still think the SERPS change with the backlinks. It hasn't happened that way for a long time. |
They change all through the month and then when ever they fell like it, they change the backlinks and PR.
Time to get over it, it don't happen that way anymore!
Don't you mean it doesn't change as much anymore?
We've moved from #2 to #1 on two of our most competative keywords - something we have not acheived for a long time...
| 9:10 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)|
This data center has totally different results: [22.214.171.124...]
| 9:40 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)|
My backlinks have almost doubled with thousands more. Wonder where they suddenly found all those.
| 1:12 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
So is this an update or what? From this thread, it appears that backlinks have updated, but the title of the thread makes it sound like a an "old-time" update in which the serps are updated as well.
Can someone please confirm if the serps are being updated now?
Also, if not, when do people think the serps will be updated next?
| 2:14 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Hi and happy thanksgiving,
For some little french sites, the number of backlinks has grown normally, but many other big websites, that usually have a +10% of backlinks more every time Google updates his index, have this time -10% and sometimes -80%... We can see it in good websites that are not using spamindexing or things like that... It's a bit strange :)
And for the Google Directory, it's steel the same, "Not Found" for .com ... :/
(Sorry for my bad english, i'm french)
| 5:46 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
On Monday my overall website traffic fell 50% (for Monday and Tuesday, Wednesday was worse but that's probably Thanksgiving related). 90% of my site traffic is from Google, so I suspect this drop was entirely due to Google.
My google ranking for my top keyword fell from #2 to #5. This ranking had been pretty stable, until several days ago.
This update (if it is one) may have started on Sunday night.
| 8:29 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Our traffic dropped a bit starting on Sunday, but I thought it was due to the holiday. Guess I will have to investigate.
| 10:14 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Traffic from google dropped by 25% starting from wednesday and 100+ more "worthless" new urls listed as backlinks... It looks like an update to me
| 10:23 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Mine looks almost the same as before the last backlinks update....hmmmm
| 10:46 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Actually it just looks like normal Thanksgiving traffic... down.
I think we will have to wait a few more days to figure out if it really is an update or not.. I have a feeling its not really an update but just another backlinks "update" or change rather.
| 11:35 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)|
For my site backlinks have updated, too. Is see it on ttp://126.96.36.199 and on google.de.
But anyways there seem to be two indexes. On ttp://188.8.131.52 I rank on #5 while on google.de I fell down to #17 with the same backlinks.
Seems a bit chaotic to me.
| 2:04 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Ummm, gee, I'm bumping this up 'cause on some of G's servers I'm seeing the largest changes to some categories that I've seen in a very looooooong while. About ten of the 20 or so that I watch regularly are *very* different. Curious if others are seeing same...
Don't know if it'll propagate to all the servers, or what. Interesting.
| 2:27 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Caveman, which datacenters?
[edited by: crobb305 at 2:39 am (utc) on Nov. 29, 2004]
| 2:33 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
The recent Google update has set my backlinks to a big fat 0. I only showed a total of 36 before the update. I have not done any reciprocal link exchanges in a while.
Also, I have a stupid intro page that the site owner insists on having. This page got -1 pagerank but my index2 page still has all backlinks and same page rank.
One of my other newer sites is now showing brand new backlinks. Update could have something to do with newly acquired backlinks. Just a thought.
Any ideas on the BL's to 0?
Servers are located in NY.
[edited by: godspeed at 2:37 am (utc) on Nov. 29, 2004]
| 2:36 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Steady as she goes here on the east coast, no real changes as of right now.
| 3:32 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
saw some minor backlink adjustments today, nothing to cause me do turn cartwheels, but enough to catch my eye.
| 9:28 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|Ummm, gee, I'm bumping this up 'cause on some of G's servers I'm seeing the largest changes to some categories that I've seen in a very looooooong while. About ten of the 20 or so that I watch regularly are *very* different. Curious if others are seeing same... |
Don't know if it'll propagate to all the servers, or what. Interesting.
Since I noticed this almost one week ago, I have seen these SERPs twice on Google UK (for sustained periods).
I'm unsure what's going to happen now. A real update would be nice :-)
| 10:08 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I have seen some quite strange changes to our results, seems like a definate algo change!
| 2:25 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
New pages I saw just yeserday (sunday) are not there
Looks to me like they have dropped a lot of data..things look out of wack today..
| 4:26 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Results are definitely "wack" right now. What's up with all the results like:
Find SITE:WWW.DOMAIN.COM at eBay
Looking for site:www.domain.com? eBay has great deals on new and used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods and more. If you can t find it on...
www.eBay.com/ - 93k
And you don't even have to use the site: command, normal searches are producing around 4 results from different domains like these in the first few pages of results for most of the search phrases I've used so far.
| 5:10 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Well, here today, gone tomorrow...er, there yesterday, gone today. What I saw was on some of the 66. dc's. Substantial changes versus the current SERP's, but who knows what they were doing. Fewer aff sites was the first thing I noticed.
| 5:16 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Hmm...I'm seeing some datacenters where results are odd. I regularly monitor a number of totally non-competitive SERPs. The advantage of this is since obviously none of the webmasters even care about Google and are playing the SEO game, any major change has to be due to a different Google algo coming online. At least with some datacenters, Google is using a new algo.
| 5:30 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Yes, I agree with algo tweek. Additionaly I am noticing some free sites and complete non-authority sites in the first page. Does not look very professional from where I am sitting.
...also as I said earlier, pages missing. Would they really try a new algo, and db update all at the same time?
I think we may be looking at a pre Christmas cock-up over there at Google.
| 5:56 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
i hate this type of threads.......
| 6:05 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Anyone care sharing the dc ip if they are seeing significant changes please?
| 6:07 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
>Hmm...I'm seeing some datacenters where results are odd.
Which DC? Please, enlighten us!
| 6:12 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
>Yes, I agree with algo tweek. Additionaly I am noticing some free sites and complete non-authority sites in the first page. Does not look very professional from where I am sitting.
You do realize most of the WWW is non-commercial, right? My own sites (as opposed to those my affiliation with is SEO for money) are totally non-commercial. I *expect* Google SERPs to look non-professional. Google is in the business of selling Adwords. What fool would pay me as a SEO based on my opinion how Google ought to rank sites? Google just is. The trick is just to figure out how to rank well.
| 6:26 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I simply said "Does not look very professional from where I am sitting"
I did/do not imply that free sites are unprofessional just the ones I am looking at the moment.
Google have tried hard, for better or for worse, to identify authorive sites and that is why I am surprised to see some obviously "low value" sites in there at the top.
| 7:07 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
It's rolling update now guys, so there is *always* an update in progress!
| 7:12 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
To answer the question of which DC's, those I was looking at (when I posted in msg #42) were some of the 66. IP's, specifically, 184.108.40.206 and 220.127.116.11. I now see also that otnot spotted activity on 11/25 at the latter IP, and posted about it in msg #32.
It is possible that they are testing a more substantially altered algo than we've seen in a while, if what I saw yesterday was any indication. I didn't spend enough time on it to characterize it much beyond comments already made. What I mainly noticed were far fewer established aff sites, and a whole bunch of new sites that I had not seen before in the SERP's.
FWIW... which in this case is probably not much.
| 7:13 pm on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Ok, google's results are really messed up right now, my latest finding...
A search for: my business name llc
position 1: form an llc site
position 2: some electricity site
(google's link to this site: [https:...] with no domain name)
position 3: my site with two sub-listings, one being eBay
postion 4: some directory site with a link title of "Find my business name LLC at domain.com Directory"
I have not seen results like these since, dare I say it, Florida.
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