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Will Many Pages Without Text Work Against Me?
2 pages of content vs 70+ pages of just product images
pweaver

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 9:54 pm on Nov 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi all,

I'm wondering if a site with 2 pages of content (home page and services pages) and 70+ spidered pages of basically just images of the products will rank poorly in Google because of the small proportion of content to "empty pages".

I'm not sure if Google looks at the proportion of text content to number of pages.

Thanks!

 

Outdoor

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 3:15 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

That is a great question pweaver. I was wondering the same thing myself.

I don't know the answer but my son is in Las Vegas right now asking the right questions, I hope.

Perhaps some of the more experienced can shed some light.

taxpod

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 3:24 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why not put decriptive text beneath the images? Also, I have no evidence but I believe alt tags are helpful. If your products are in different categories, why not have some text which varies from catalog page to catalog page?

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 3:57 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Absolutely no problem and ensure your title bar corresponds with your:

meta name="Keywords"
meta name="Description"
h1/h2 tag above image
alt tag for image
h2/h3 tag below image

This will then ensure inclusion in "various" other engines/directories. "On-page" descriptions plus image alt tags are a must and it would be very helpful if the "on-page" were in h1 or h2 tags as shown above.

An h1/h2 above the image and an h2/h3 below the image would be best but only use them ONCE each on that specific page.

It is very important to create the template page to ensure you can easily update extra information at a later date wherever you need to on the page.

The importance of doing this cannot be emphasised enough since it will keep you readily prepared for when your competitors have understood what you have done!

It takes time to create a great template page but once it has been done it will definitely stand the test of time and will save you HOURS/MONEY in the future on modifying/changing/re-creating something that was not done correctly the first time round.

My experience? #1 in a massive "widget" industry whose pages are realistically 99+% the same since only the "widget" name and image changes. All navigation etc is identical.

Google does not have a problem with it since all the criteria laid out above complies with their guidelines.

And I can say this...I just WISH I knew how their algo sorted that similarity out! It works perfectly so I ain't complaining:-)

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 11:38 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just need to add a little more to this...heck it was 04.00!

Ensure your "widgets" are in a logical directory structure so that all other "widgets" from the same source are in the same folder. By that I mean if you have "widget 1" and "widget 2" from, say the USA, then they are in the appropriate USA folder as opposed to "widget 1" and "widget 2" from Mexico.

You must ensure that your URL extension is the same as your essential keyword description such as:

yourdomain.com/country/product/widget_widget.html

You can also do it:

yourdomain.com/product/country/widget-widget.html however I have found the first usually does better.

The arguement of which is the better "_" and "-" I have yet to see been proven conclusively however I prefer the look of "_".

And, before I forget, ensure your image names also correspond with the "widget". Don't simply call them "image1" "image2" etc, make sure it is "widget_widget.jpg" or whichever format you use. This will also ensure a high ranking in the Google image directory whenever it gets around to updating.

Apply all the information above and you'll have no problems.

That's all for the moment...I can smell the coffee:-)

Outdoor

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 1:40 am on Nov 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks OptiRex, we appreciate all the detailed information.

What about having multiple sites(2 or 3)? Would the template page trip a duplicate content filter?

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 5:57 pm on Nov 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

>What about having multiple sites(2 or 3)? Would the template page trip a duplicate content filter?

So long as the image and descriptions as given above are different for each page there would be no duplicate content penalty even across many sites using the same template.

You must remember to change title bar descriptions and on-page descriptions etc for every page otherwise you'll achieve zilch! Just one page and that would be it...

We have done this for many years on quite a few sites and have never experienced any problems.

Just put yourself in the mind of the searcher and what they would be looking for in a search term for your "widgets"...that's what Google et al should return and why it is important to complete all the meta tags too since some SE's do also rely upon that information!

It might not be a lot of extra traffic but every little bit helps and compared to the amount of time it takes to complete that information, it's nothing.

fighter

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 26699 posted 10:19 am on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

Even though I am not completely sure, I would assume that a site that has a very little descriptive content like text and at the same time many pictures meaning that 90% of the site are actually just images, it will have poorer serps and PR as opposed to a website that is much smaller but features a lot of descriptive text thus keywords.

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