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Is there an update going on?
willybfriendly




msg:127678
 11:51 pm on Oct 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

I see some pretty significant changes in the SERPs across a number of terms. Also note that the cache is showing pages I updated within the past week.

I have noted more than the usual shifting of pages in and out of the SERPs for the past week or so, and of course we have seen threads about updated backlinks (FWIW).

Anyone else seeing changes?

WBF

 

cyberprosper




msg:127708
 2:27 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Big update happened. Oh well. back to the drawing board.

walkman




msg:127709
 3:09 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

"Big update happened. Oh well. back to the drawing board. "

I see NO update on Google.com.

webmktg




msg:127710
 3:27 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't see any major change.

8cool




msg:127711
 3:35 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

No change in Google.com

8cool




msg:127712
 3:48 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

oh I can see a big change in 216.239.39.104

bobothecat




msg:127713
 3:59 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

8cool:"oh I can see a big change in 216.239.39.104"

I see some changes, but I wouldn't term them as 'big' - checked over 200 KW's (travel) - doesn't appear to more than the 'usual' daily flux.

added: Actually, it does appear as if some of the blatent spam sites got dropped, or at least dropped down - good :)

McMohan




msg:127714
 5:34 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Exactly bobothecat. Changes are just very limited, few positions up or down on a wide array of keywords. Nothing BIG here.

Mc

webnewton




msg:127715
 6:49 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

I can't see any significant change whatsoever. Keeping a hawk's eye but Google is still sleeping after making us wait for more than 3 months now.

phantombookman




msg:127716
 8:56 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

All sites exactly in their usual position for all my terms.
Not even the slightest chgange ...yet!

petehall




msg:127717
 9:36 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Update? Not seeing any changes in SERPs here but backlinks have updated.

I think Google may have "lost" backlinks for a number of sites.

One of ours dropped from 400+ incoming links to just 29, whereas all of the other sites have increased slightly.

Consequently, we have also lost a notch on the PR toolbar for the default page of the site.

This is not just happening to us though, I have seen complete loss on one website, and a number of large volume losses on well established websites.

As far as I know this happened either over the weekend or sometime on Monday.

webmktg




msg:127718
 11:41 am on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

I can't see any major change except few sites have gone up and down. I noticed this in 216.239.39.104.

I have lost some backlinks but Google now list many pages of my website.

zeus




msg:127719
 12:13 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

well I got from 38.000 uniques a day to 3000, so I do see a big change, but it looks like the internal pages have been hit hardest.

Roomy




msg:127720
 12:27 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

30% more backlinks reported and traffic up...looks like an improvement.

walkman




msg:127721
 1:32 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

"well I got from 38.000 uniques a day to 3000, so I do see a big change, but it looks like the internal pages have been hit hardest. "

zeus,
similar things happened to me in August. Never recovered, just keept sliding further. I was hoping that this update would take care of things...

zeus




msg:127722
 1:44 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

walkman, can I see that site, just sticky it to me

PCInk




msg:127723
 1:56 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

All backlinks dropped and PR reduction. Maybe due to a Google reshuffle or maybe due to hosting problems recently.

bether2




msg:127724
 2:40 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

One of ours dropped from 400+ incoming links to just 29, whereas all of the other sites have increased slightly.

Consequently, we have also lost a notch on the PR toolbar for the default page of the site.

The backlinks shown with the link: command are just a "sampling" of backlinks for the page. I don't believe that list of backlinks is related at all to the actual number of backlinks that google counts for the page or related to the PR for that page.

petehall




msg:127725
 3:59 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

The backlinks shown with the link: command are just a "sampling" of backlinks for the page. I don't believe that list of backlinks is related at all to the actual number of backlinks that google counts for the page or related to the PR for that page.

You could very well be correct, as we haven't lost a single position as yet... not even the slightest slip anywhere.

We did add two new sections which could explain the drop from PR6 to PR5, as the internal pages have remained the same (I am assuming the PR of these pages updated also).

BroadProspect




msg:127726
 4:17 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

lost a lot of TOP positions on ULTRA competative keywords! the sites were not banned just droped a few pages down.
It did not change the SERP for these terms a lot, seems like a few sites that were using the same techniques of self promotion got hit, I still do not have a clue to what exactly contributed to the drop.
any ideas?
/BP

zeus




msg:127727
 6:19 pm on Nov 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

BroadProspect
seems like you have the same problem as I have, my internal pages are bad listed now and the frontpage is gone a few pages down on main keywords.

p.s this is a said situation, this means I will not come to las vegas conference

nuthin




msg:127728
 12:45 am on Nov 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

ok this is what i have been noticing..

seems they switched over one set of results with this new database that i am seeing from time to time.

when fresh dates come, they switch back to the other set of results (with the database most of us are probably used to).

looks like they dropped a database, trying to implement this new one that we see every 2nd day or so.

the new set of results that i see every 2nd day or so occur when fresh dates are not on the listings..

these results look to be more "content" focused & seem to be quite good. (hit or miss for alot of sites though.)

have been noticing they are using 2 main set of results for ages now, for whatever reason that is.

HarryM




msg:127729
 2:33 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

For the last week or so Google has been crawling my index page daily. The following day the index page would appear in cache. I.e., on Nov 2 the cache would be dated Nov 1, on Nov 3 it would be dated Nov 1, etc.

But today the cache has reverted to Oct 26, although there are other pages cached on Nov 2. If it's a fluctuation, it's very odd.

walkman




msg:127730
 3:08 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

"seems like you have the same problem as I have, my internal pages are bad listed now and the frontpage is gone a few pages down on main keywords. "

My front page is way up, the rest of the pages are no way down...seems like I got a -5 or whatever for the rest of the pages. Maybe th efront page has tha - too, but lots of links with good anchor overcome that up to a point. I also noted that several internal pages with inbound links are doing better. The thing is that a few other sites' pages with no (or less) inbound links are still ranking better.

asg2004




msg:127731
 3:48 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Big question here: Is there some sort of consensus whether or not we've seen an update.

I can say that on our end NOTHING drastic has happened. In fact, it seems like NOTHING has happened at all, and that this is just a regular flux.

Anyone?

jnmconsulting




msg:127732
 4:01 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Good question, I've seen alot of indexing and bot traffic, but no movement SERPS at all in my Key word category.

uioreanu




msg:127733
 4:46 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

i can see changes in serps here too. I'm on page 2-3 for terms i used to be first position

Also some pages appear in google without title/description. Is this a sign that I am getting removed? I only have the link there; what does this mean?

epsrx




msg:127734
 8:10 pm on Nov 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't see any changes on Google.com .. Still waiting for my site to show up for the keyword I am optimizing it for.. Couple of sites have showed up on page 1 but not a major change yet... I will wait and see

HayMeadows




msg:127735
 3:56 am on Nov 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Looks like Google is brewing up some changes once again!

GoogleGuy




msg:127736
 6:36 am on Nov 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Big question here: Is there some sort of consensus whether or not we've seen an update.

I can say that on our end NOTHING drastic has happened. In fact, it seems like NOTHING has happened at all, and that this is just a regular flux.

I think you answered your own question pretty well, asg2004. :)

grandpa




msg:127737
 6:45 am on Nov 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

GG, please refresh my memory.

Sometime back in Feb-Mar you announced the end of updates as we knew them, and from now on we could expect rolling updates. I've looked several times for the thread and haven't located it yet.

That post comes to mind almost every time I see another G-update thread. Your last post in this thread almost confirms it.

Powdork




msg:127738
 7:32 am on Nov 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Grandpa he also said it more recently here [webmasterworld.com]. Doesn't mean we can't see some rolling thunder though. Please.

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