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GoogleBot Turn around time?
richardtk




msg:34645
 7:30 am on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

hi.... does anyone know how long after a google bot visits a site that the site either gets listed or updated?

My new site has now been visted by the bot 4 times in the last few dats but as yet no change to the listing or pR....

see below.......................

Friday, Oct 22nd 2004 - 9:07 am
Bot: Googlebot/2.1 (crawl-66-249-64-37.googlebot.com)
Crawled:

Friday, Oct 22nd 2004 - 1:23 pm
Bot: Googlebot/2.1 (crawl-66-249-64-199.googlebot.com)
Crawled:

Sunday, Oct 24th 2004 - 1:32 pm
Bot: Googlebot/2.1 (crawl-66-249-64-201.googlebot.com)
Crawled:

Monday, Oct 25th 2004 - 7:45 am
Bot: Googlebot/2.1 (crawl-66-249-64-167.googlebot.com)
Crawled:

[edited by: richardtk at 8:01 am (utc) on Oct. 25, 2004]

 

piskie




msg:34646
 7:49 am on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Only Google knows the answer to your question.

There are far too many variables for anyone else to give an answer that is other than a guess based on experience. Even these informed guesses can't take into account "Abnormal" Google activity that seems to be happening more and more these days.

richardtk




msg:34647
 8:01 am on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

so an informed guess migh be? weeks or months? or just not at all?

diamondgrl




msg:34648
 11:30 am on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

PR does not change based on Googlebot visiting you. It changes based on how many links Googlebot finds on the Internet to your site. Build more links and that will help with both getting indexed and getting better traffic once you do get indexed.

richardtk




msg:34649
 12:08 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

oo right...

getting links is never easy especially good quality ones... even more so when you work in the education sector like we do...

o well...

g1smd




msg:34650
 9:09 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Extra pages, on an existing site, usually appear in the index less than 36 hours after Google first drops by.

GoogleGuy




msg:34651
 5:12 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hey richardtk, it can vary depending on several different factors. Once you have a few pages listed, here's a tip to get a feel for what sort of update rate/freshness you're getting. Take a page and click on the "Cached" link. I took the first result from the search [bush kerry debate] and clicked on the cached link for the first url. In the header it says:
.... [cnn.com...] as retrieved on Oct 25, 2004 05:13:43 GMT....
So that means we crawled, indexed, pushed, and are serving a page that we fetched earlier today.

Note though: that doesn't mean that the page was created that day, just that we refreshed our copy of the page at that particular time.

kendos




msg:34652
 7:11 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ok, Googleguy, but what about the date in the SERP? Why this difference? :

"www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/13/debate.main/ - 59k - 24 Oct 2004"

GoogleGuy




msg:34653
 3:18 pm on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

kendos, I believe that the date in the actual SERPs is the crawl date in Pacific Time, while the date reported in the cached header is GMT. I base this theory on a comprehensive test suite involving the other six or so urls that showed crawl dates on the SERPs page. :) Of the ones that said "Oct 24, 2004" the latest was crawled on 05:14:46 GMT. The one that said Oct 25, 2004 was crawled on 08:22:23 GMT. I haven't checked with the crawl folks, but that's my theory, and I'm sticking to it. A person more scientific-method-oriented than me could probably figure out what we do about daylight savings since it switches back this weekend, but I'm not that interested myself. :)

g1smd




msg:34654
 7:15 pm on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

The Fresh Date is in some US time zone.

The cache date is GMT based (though GMT is an obsolete term since 1971 - should be UTC now).

steve128




msg:34655
 8:07 pm on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

Universal time is preferred apparently, but i like gmt - a bit more "localised" googlebot may come by when it figures out when meddlers have nothing else to play with..one dizzy bot - stardate 26 oct 2004 2106 hours GMT I think.

metrostang




msg:34656
 4:50 am on Oct 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

I read here that to rank well you must have quality external links. I've not had that experience.

The 1st of October, uploaded a 50 page catalog. Googlebot retrieved on Oct. 8 and am now showing up on the first page of searches for many relevant terms. Some searches have me at number 1 and 2.

I have 15,000 other related pages, but have not cross linked yet and have no external links that I can find.

I did know what market I was going after and wrote the pages to maximize for relevant terms, but was surprised by the results.

I've also noticed lately that the advice to write your text for the searcher not for the SE doesn't work anymore, if it ever did. The top pages in my area are some of the worst examples of keyword stuffing I've seen. Keywords repeated 14 times in two paragraphs. Totally unreadable. So, with this catalog, I stuffed a few myself and it appears to be working.

Kongen




msg:34657
 1:06 pm on Oct 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've had visits from that bot. Over 300 hits on a 3 months old site, and im still not indexed in google. I have lots of other sites linking to me, but nothing happens.

I guess it has something to do with PHPnuke (cms system), but i haven't been able to find a solution. Some say it is because i have id's in my urls, other people say that has no influence...

Status: After 3 months, and alot of visits by googlebot, i am not indexed at all!

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