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Google rules out becoming net portal
Not building browser according to CEO
Lord Majestic

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Msg#: 26372 posted 9:47 pm on Oct 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

Financial Times report:

"In an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Schmidt said Google would not seek to turn its website into a broader internet portal, a move that would take it into more direct competition with Microsoft and Yahoo.

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One widely rumoured defence against Microsoft has been a Google web browser potentially countering the software giant's ability to embed its own search engine into its operating system.
'We are not building a browser,' Mr Schmidt said."

Source: [news.ft.com...]

 

jonathanleger

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Msg#: 26372 posted 1:19 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Honestly, as heavily as Google has learned toward supporting IE over other browsers with their various tools (Pisca/Desktop Search/Toolbar), it seemed odd to me that they would be building their own browser in competition. So much for that.

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Msg#: 26372 posted 1:36 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Booyah! Now we can put an end to those silly rumours.

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Msg#: 26372 posted 1:45 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Mr Schmidt said Google would not seek to turn its website into a broader internet portal, a move that would take it into more direct competition with Microsoft and Yahoo.

Nope, no portal. Just email, newsgroups, personal search, shopping search, phonebook, local search, maps/directions, financial quotes, and advertisements. ;-)

What's next, travel search?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

adfree

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Msg#: 26372 posted 1:51 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

...and tastes like a duck...

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Msg#: 26372 posted 1:52 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

then it must be a chicken!

Shak

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Msg#: 26372 posted 2:01 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Google still remembers what happened when Altavista went portal-haywire and buried their search box in a ton of crud. Google beat them out with their no-nonsense simplicity, and it remains the cornerstone of their interface design.

But Jake is right: Google is a portal, but they are working hard to hide the fact. Thier challenge remains to keep the google.com home as simple as possible and at the same time promoting other services. Froogle is listed, but for example will Gmail be if they ever get it out of beta?

Hmm, roast chicken!

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Msg#: 26372 posted 2:09 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>'We are not building a browser,' Mr Schmidt said."<<

And IBM didn't build their own operating system back in 1980, either.

Some of these companies make it so easy for Bill to win.

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Msg#: 26372 posted 2:15 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Some of these companies make it so easy for Bill to win.

Bill's success depends on the OS (which the browser is tied to), not the browser itself. But Google isn't building an OS either - rather, they are using Windows and .NET to build many of their new projects (Orkut, Google Desktop Search...) and adapting Windows components to insert their own technology (Toolbar, GDS again...).

Google have decided to "hijack" Windows and IE rather than replace them. If they pull it off, then Bill gets to do all the hard work and Google reap the rewards. It's a very big "If".

Chris_D

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Msg#: 26372 posted 2:22 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

"'We are not building a browser,' Mr Schmidt said."

Its all just semantics. After all - if Google have already built the browser - then this is still a true statement..... or if they licence one... or rebadge something...

kevinpate

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Msg#: 26372 posted 2:24 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

> What's next, travel search?

nah, then G would have to spam itself :)

jsavvy293

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Msg#: 26372 posted 2:39 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

well maybe they aren't "building" a browser now, but i don't think gbrowser.com is going to go to waste.

steverose

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Msg#: 26372 posted 4:30 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Google will never create an alternative to IE or effectively challenge MS?

I would not assume that either is a fact written in stone.

Cheers, S

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Msg#: 26372 posted 4:35 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Jake, LOL.

The comments struck me as akin to politicians saying that they won't raise taxes. They might not, or they might, but little stock should be put into what they say either way.

Watch what they do, not what they say. :-)

PizdusInc

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Msg#: 26372 posted 5:00 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmm... like an associate I work with said... they are probably not exactly working on a "Browser" but an "Internet Assistant" ...hehehe...

Max_K

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Msg#: 26372 posted 5:45 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Its all just semantics. After all - if Google have already built the browser - then this is still a true statement..... or if they licence one... or rebadge something...

...or use the Mozilla engine...

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Msg#: 26372 posted 5:52 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Larry & Sergey were in India recently and also denied (to the media) that they were building a browser. They said the rumour got started because they registered many domanins as potential names for their various upcoming servicves, and Gbrowser being one of them probably triggered the rumour.

They also said that Mozilla was already developing good bowsers and there was no need for them to develop browsers.

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Msg#: 26372 posted 6:27 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

>no need for them to develop browsers.

True.

OTOH, there was no need for M$ to develop another SE either ... ;-)

Well, at least not until the G lag hit.

garyr_h

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Msg#: 26372 posted 7:34 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

I thought they weren't going to build one anyways... and use a variation of the Mozilla browser...

Mr Bo Jangles

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Msg#: 26372 posted 9:12 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

We are not building a browser,' Mr Schmidt said."

Anyone want to have a bet with me? - (I agree with GaryR)

dillonstars

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Msg#: 26372 posted 10:20 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

There's also Picasa... not a web browser, but an image browser.......

Jimmy Turnip

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Msg#: 26372 posted 8:46 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

I hypothesise that they aren't making a browser or an OS, but a browser that replaces the OS. You switch on your computer and you're presented with an HTML GUI and that's the way you use your computer. It's the way the Internet is heading anyway. It's already made multimedia CDs and CD-based encyclopoedias obsolete.

Why laden our slow machines when we can get Google's high performance servers and our 500k connections to do all the work. That way our PCs will not go out of date so quickly, and we'd all be able to work exactly as we would at home from anywhere in the world.

Google has already proved it can make web-based email quicker and more efficient than a desktop application. What's next, a Google Web-Based Word Processor?

I'm patenting all my ideas and applying for copywrites now.

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Msg#: 26372 posted 9:00 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

[mozillanews.org...]

The overlap is looking like a Google branded and customized Firefox based browser.

This article seems to think they will make a G braned version of FF.

chrisnrae

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Msg#: 26372 posted 10:28 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

LOL, the only thing Google hasn't done is gone with the cliche portal design. Outside of that, I agree - tastes like chicken. ;)

Jbrookins

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Msg#: 26372 posted 6:38 pm on Oct 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."

so TECHNICALLY, they may not actually be building a browser...otoh, that doesn't stop them from letting someone else build it for them. :P

jamesa

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Msg#: 26372 posted 6:14 am on Oct 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmm... If they are not building a browser, then the must either be (1) using the browser technology to better understand the layout/structure of web pages; or (2) using the browser technology as the rendering engine in upcoming desktop applications.

Mr Bo Jangles

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Msg#: 26372 posted 7:46 am on Oct 29, 2004 (gmt 0)


I'm patenting all my ideas and applying for copywrites now.

under the Jimmy Turnip signature? *_*

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Msg#: 26372 posted 9:39 am on Oct 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

"Building a browser" is a true case of missing the points and probably shows a case of the FT asking the wrong question to the right person.

The whole logical strategy for Google imho is to make the MS OPERATING system obselete - not the browser! They do this by taking the traditional functionalities of a computer off the OS and onto the web (ideally onto Google) so that they can be used through ANY browser. It is the ANY browser that is the key - if successful, the strategy would make all PCs $100 cheaper overnight and Microsoft would have to give away Windows for free.

D.

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Msg#: 26372 posted 3:54 pm on Oct 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

if successful, the strategy would make all PCs $100 cheaper overnight and Microsoft would have to give away Windows for free.

The cost of PC's would go down, but your internet access cost would triple. Either way, your still paying for the computing power.

Lord Majestic

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Msg#: 26372 posted 4:17 pm on Oct 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

The whole logical strategy for Google imho is to make the MS OPERATING system obselete - not the browser!

Microsoft makes most money from the Office cash cow - they could give away OS for free, in fact cost of OEM Windows is pretty low - something in region of $45. Its not a lot - cost of 3-4 movie tickets, and the benefit you can take from OS is a lot bigger. Its not about OS that Microsoft can afford to give away.

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