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How to PR my site.
need info on page ranking
john benjamin




msg:47321
 11:00 am on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi All,

I have started out developing my website. Before the designing begins, I would like to know what exactly to do so as to make my site rate high on the PageRank.

Also, is Page Rank applicable for the whole website or does it relate to each pages in the website?

Please help me.

 

Liane




msg:47322
 11:20 am on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld John Benjamin!

Pretty much everything in the Google fora are about how to rank. You'll need to read a lot! Start here:

[webmasterworld.com...]

Also, is Page Rank applicable for the whole website or does it relate to each pages in the website?

Each page within a site is allocated its own rank.

internetheaven




msg:47323
 8:28 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

I would like to know what exactly to do so as to make my site rate high on the PageRank.

Why? It isn't an important ranking factor. Start searching for "anchor text" and "on-page factors" first. Then, when you have some spare time and you want a laugh, read up on obtaining PageRank.

Just to let you know, Google took the p*ss out of webmasters for the last four months or so by not updating the PR in the toolbar. It drove loads of people crazy! heh!

BigDave




msg:47324
 9:17 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why? It isn't an important ranking factor.

Sorry, but it is still by far the most important ranking factor. No other single factor can have such an influence across the board.

Every other thing you do will affect a specific keyphrase on on page. PR affects every keyphrase on every page. And even when you are considering a specific keyphrase on a specific page, I believe that pagerank has at least as much influence as any other factor

It just is not as easy to affect as the other factors. Getting improved anchor text is much easier than moving up to PR8 from PR4.

internetheaven




msg:47325
 9:24 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

It just is not as easy to affect as the other factors. Getting improved anchor text is much easier than moving up to PR8 from PR4.

But PR8's aren't beating PR 1-7's hands down for their chosen keyphrases. Well none that I've seen anyway ...

PR affects every keyphrase on every page.

I'm of the school of thought that PR is now a floating number attributed dependant on the anchor text of the link that gave that PR. It would make more sense to do it that way to avoid blatant ranking increases based on a factor that does not reveal the actual topic of the site. They already made that mistake last year ...

BigDave




msg:47326
 9:39 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

And somehow you jumped to the conclusion that just because a PR4 can beat a PR8 that PR is "not important"?

I said PR is still the most important single factor. A PR 3 can beat a PR8 using a [bbcombination[/b] of factors where they rank better, but I would be surprised if they could do it with any single factor.

It is not a binary on/off situation where "PR is everything"/"PR is nothing".

And like I said, PR affects all your keyphrases and all you pages. Very few sites get a majority of their traffic from one keyphrase.

internetheaven




msg:47327
 11:12 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

And somehow you jumped to the conclusion that just because a PR4 can beat a PR8 that PR is "not important"?

Nope, only an idiot would make such an assumption based on a single point of information ...

I said PR is still the most important single factor. A PR 3 can beat a PR8 using a [bbcombination[/b] of factors where they rank better, but I would be surprised if they could do it with any single factor.

And what numbskull would only use PR to try and rank? That was the point I was making, OTHER factors are MORE IMPORTANT to focus on first and that PR plays a very small part. I wasn't talking about "single factors", you were ...

It is not a binary on/off situation where "PR is everything"/"PR is nothing".

Exactly ... oh, wait, did you somehow think that I said that?

And like I said, PR affects all your keyphrases and all you pages. Very few sites get a majority of their traffic from one keyphrase.

Is it "state the bleeding obvious day" again? I should really mark it down on my calender ... stating something irrelevant that IS true, doesn't help to back up something that isn't - PR is not a major ranking factor.

But let me guess, you have high PR and you rank well therefore it must be the PR (nothing to do with the on-topic links, anchor text, on-page optimization etc. etc. etc. that comes with linking).

BigDave




msg:47328
 12:01 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

But let me guess, you have high PR and you rank well therefore it must be the PR (nothing to do with the on-topic links, anchor text, on-page optimization etc. etc. etc. that comes with linking).

No, my PR is not all that high. Last I checked a few months ago, it was a PR6.

But as an example, from my own site, I have pages that have ZERO external incoming links. The text on the page has not changed significantly in years, nor have the internal links or anchor text. As the PR of that page has gone up, so has my ranking for its highest traffic term. It has been top 5 for over a year for a highly commercial term, ever since it hit PR5. It certainly does not prove anything, but it is closer to proof than anything you have presented.

Do a search on the word [support]. Do you really think that PR is unimportant in those rankings?

What about the results for [bank sweden], why do Nobel pages come up so high? While it is mentioned in titles, it is rarely mentioned in anchor text. It is because of the extremely high PR of nobel.se.

PR is the single most important factor in so many ways that I just cannot comprehend why someone could possibly say that it is unimportant.

thumpcyc




msg:47329
 4:18 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hey john benjamin, In an attempt to answer your question. Build your site with text links to all your pages, so that G PR can flow to all the pages, this will also help in getting the site spidered and indexed. To grow the PR of the Site's pages, get inbound links from sites with PR, so they will pass it to your site's pages. The More links From sites the better, the higher PR pages the links come from, the better.

Always remember, PR is not the only piece of the puzzle.

For Success in the serps, Content Is King
Links, PR & headings, will make your site sing.
Alt text on Pics, will help if it matters,
site moves up the serps, like steps on a ladder.
Anchor Text helps, from within & from out,
Now at the top of the serps, it is not safe to shout.
Each of these pieces, including the sites name,
Are all just a part, of the search engine game.

Thumpcyc

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