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Cache back by 2 weeks?
Seps show 3rd Sept for cache, 2 weeks old.. UPDATE?

 6:27 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0)


My 60+ page website is listed in seps with each cached page backdated to the 3rd Sept, today of course being the 17th!

My site for the past 2 months has been deep crawled daily and all changes appeared within 36 hours, including the cache being no more than 36 hours old.. super fast, but now this rollback!

Any ideas?



 7:45 pm on Sep 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have not seen that.

I have been looking at a page that has been crawled at sometime around 01:06 or 01:07 (but 01:11 last time) GMT every night, and that page is then shown in the cache about 30 to 36 shown hours later. However, the "snippet" and the "search query database" have NOT been updated. The page has had a certain phone number on it for the last 4 years. That number was changed a few weeks ago, but you can still find the page by searching for the old number, and the old number is still shown in the snippet; even though it is the new number that is shown in the cache.

Even more wierd is that the page also comes up in a search for the new phone number, and currently has a 17 Sep 2004 fresh tag against it, with the cache view dated "18 Sep 2004 01:11 GMT". The snippet does then show the new number too. However, there is no fresh date against the result when using the old number as the search query; but the cache link takes you to exactly the same cache view of the new number.


 8:04 pm on Sep 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

My site has seen these rollbacks in the cache too, but not evey page. I don't know why. They had been freshed up every day or two for the last two weeks but went back to a cache of over 2 weeks ago yesterday.


 5:07 am on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Same RobK, its not all of my pages that have rolled back... They are still stuck at 3rd Sept.

This is harming my SERPS too, as I ammeded my title tag and main body seo soon AFTER the 3rd. Pages effected are being held back due to this.

I hope there is a good reason - All pages are new and PR0, but still crawled daily... Maybe it will all come clear soon. If google asks for anything, it is patience.


 8:19 am on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am seeing this on one site, previously site would be refreshed every few days and the cache would update accordingly.

For the last two weeks or so nothing has been refreshed, last cache date that I can find is 7th sept. Also pages created after that time are not in the index despite being easy to find and well linked.

So I don't know if that is a penalty symptom all of a sudden or is simply part of all the weird stuff going on right now. Like many sites the bot has been crawling the network aggressively last few days so something is probably in the pipe.


 8:50 pm on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Heh! Yes, I have done some digging and found a few pages on each of several sites with a 3rd September cache date. I can't see good a reason for it.

Even more disconcerting, I found some pages with March or May 2004 cache dates here and there too. Thankfully all on other peoples' sites though.


 9:39 pm on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

60+ page website is listed in seps with each cached page backdated to the 3rd Sept, today of course being the 17th!

I see exactly the same thing on my site - except the index page that has been updated a couple of days ago. Apparently all subpages show cached as the 3rd.


 10:43 pm on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have two sites that have not had their index pages updated since July 15th and July 20th. Internal pages that show in the serps have been updated in either August or September depending on the page.

Both index pages have been changed as recently as September 10th, then again a couple of more times since then.

I have also used a server header checker and it shows them as modified recently.

I have a third site that has not had the index page modified since August 15th and it shows a cache date of September 18th.

None of the site have the same IP.

I have no idea what is going on or why. Any ideas?


 5:03 am on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just got added to the Google directory on about Sept 5th, and I keep checking the cache of the page to see when Google will pick the link up.

The cache date is still September 3rd! The page has a PR 5, too- should be spidered often.

This date must have some significance.


 6:13 am on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

take a look at cached microsoft.com, and you'll see "Last Updated: Friday, September 17, 2004 - 12:00 A.M. Pacific Time"

so, some sites been updated rather good :)


 7:17 am on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

From Googleguy:

If you see a crawl date from more than a month ago, you're probably checking out a site that handles If-Modified-Since well.


See also "Are you using If Modified Since?"


I guess that still doesn't explain why some pages on a given site have fresh dates and some don't. Maybe those pages actually have been modified more recently?


 6:09 am on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Granted, *all* my subpages were updated with a single link late August... Yet google has selectivly stalled the cache on roughly 60% of those updated page - the others show nice fresh cache updates. The rest STILL show Sept 3rd, and my index is fesh every 36 hours.

Googlebot is constantly on my logs crawling those 3rd Sept cached pages but does not display the new links in cache.

This site is still very new, and it is my thought that maybe my inbound links are not of enough 'Strength' or in high enuff numbers to update all of my page daily. Maybe it selects the 40% most linked to pages on my site and updates those on a regualr basis, and maybe the rest on a monthly basis. Until I get more inbound links?



 8:54 am on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just came on to see if anyone else had this problem and lo and behold seems quite common, so I am majorly relieved its not a penalty for being naughty!

Depending on which google server you get my cache was backdated to 5th or 11th Sept for the homepage, and 6th for the page I most recently optimised.

My first thought was that they were having a cache clear-out which wouldn't make much sense, or perhaps whatever server/s my cache was stored on has kicked the bucket.

Anyone from Google ever look at these posts?




 9:05 am on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)


On one site I haven't had a freshbot cache update since 7th Sept. No pages have been reindexed since, wheras previously cache would update every couple of days.

Is that abnormal do you think or just typical of what some of you are also experiencing?


 9:54 am on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

The problems I had occurred yesterday. The cache went from being the previous day, to going back to the 2nd, so its definitely a case of deleting or removing cache rather than not actually caching since a specific date.

Definitely seems abnormal to me.


 10:10 am on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is normal.

The fresh caches are temporary. They are always thrown away. If you go two or three days without being freshed, your page will revert to its master cache.

Results are bumping around significantly in my sector, so it seems to me that we likely saw another lull before another one of these trvial updates where again weaker quality sites with volume of weaker quality linking get a bit of a boost.

Anyway, reverting to a cache significantly older than the one you had when you had a fresh tag is normal.


 10:28 am on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

But is there a reason for it, I mean the site in question in my case is 6 years old, pr6 and well linked.

I have more recent sites with cache only 2-3 days old as normal. The older site is cached from 1st week in Sept. I guess I take some reassurance from those of you who suggest it is still normal behaviour but I can't help but think that I would expect the older better linked site to see freshbot far more than the others and prior to the 7th of sept it did.



 2:45 pm on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem except my site has reverted back to a chache date of the 9th of September.
In addition to this the position in the serps has also reverted back to approximatly where it was on the 9th.


 2:48 pm on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've had a chunk of month old pages disapear from the cache... Not sure if it's regular dumping as steveb suggests or not. It certainly feels different than what I normally observe with caching.

No clear evidence of anything from my camp, but plenty of hunches, rumours and sketchy details to run wild with :)


 10:51 pm on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Give it three or four days. There is a bit of an update going on, and having a pause in caching before an update is also normal. See threads like this for two or three of the past months.


 8:01 am on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I'm back - new cache and ranking has returned.

Now I can go back to not knowing and not caring why instead of not knowing and caring!

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