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How long before Google reflects the changes in SERPS
if you change the pages and links
walkman




msg:206095
 9:45 pm on Aug 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

if you change the pages and links let's say today, do you have to wait until their algo update, or it's updated earlier based on an estimate, and then more around the end of the month?

What's the lastest thing on this?

 

tantalus




msg:206096
 1:27 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Bump

VigoZ




msg:206097
 1:41 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

i think you should wait at the least two months(and 1 or two pr and backlinks upgrade) before the new website stucture integrated correctly in google SERPS

jsnow




msg:206098
 3:53 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

It depends on how quickly all the changes are indexed, and soon after that you should see an effect on the SERP's

seoArt




msg:206099
 4:42 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just redesigned my main website about 3 weeks ago. All of the new pages were indexed and in SERPs within a week, but some of the old pages still showed up for a week or so.

Everything's correctly indexed and ranking well now, 3 weeks later.

PatrickDeese




msg:206100
 4:50 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Once your re-designed (previously indexed) pages get crawled by Google - it should reassess the on-page factors and you should see changes in ranking accordingly.

New inbound may take several months to show effect.

As an example - I had a page that was ranked #3 for a search phrase - I rewrote the title tag and changed a couple of sentences of content and two days later it had a fresh tag and has ranked #1 ever since.

walkman




msg:206101
 6:03 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

"Once your re-designed (previously indexed) pages get crawled by Google - it should reassess the on-page factors and you should see changes in ranking accordingly"

Hi Patrick,
so I assume it's a matter of days since several of the links are linked directly from the front page and get indexed daily?.

I can't get this thing to work. Before the update (latest) I was #1-3 on most of the keywords and now I'm about 10 or so places down. It's a huge difference money wise. I can't seem to get the right tweak this time and it sucks since it's this close. I replaced inbound links that had the exact keyword and removed the <Hx> tags too but no luck...very frustrating.

PatrickDeese




msg:206102
 6:26 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Before the update (latest) I was #1-3 on most of the keywords and now I'm about 10 or so places down.... I replaced inbound links that had the exact keyword and removed the <Hx> tags too but no luck...

Well have you consider that on-page factors are not the issue.

Perhaps you lost some important links, or some links were devalued, or perhaps your competitors gained valuable links.

walkman




msg:206103
 6:37 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

"Perhaps you lost some important links, or some links were devalued, or perhaps your competitors gained valuable links"

It could be true but no way of really proving that, at least not yet. No PR update and I see competitors ahead with much less PR and barely any backlinks. Very irregular when you consider PR, keyword %, backlinks etc. I sprinkle a keyword here 'n there too, but mostly serious spammers have the top spots. However, all of the sudden on another keyword you see a site on top that mentions the name once and has just a few backlinks. Very hard to figure it out (for me anyway).

If I could post a few links here to illustrate you woudl see it, but I cant....

coburn




msg:206104
 6:39 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Walkman, your question is too generalised to give an exact answer to.

I've found that for competitive phrases, new backlinks can take 6 weeks to affect the SERPs. I'm guessing your backlinks use your chosen anchor text. So have you kept track of your backlinks? Perhaps you were linked to by an authority site, and they have since dropped you from their listing? So many factors we can only conjecture without more facts.

PatrickDeese makes an important point about your competition not standing still (don't assume 'Ceteris Paribus' - go out and actively model your competition to 'borrow' their secrets! I think someone once called it 'research').

Rather than re-arrange your 'deck chairs on the Tatanic' (onpage), work on sailing more effectively (offpage bl's using anchor text).

walkman




msg:206105
 6:53 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

coburn,
actually I'm doing both: rearranging the chairs and trying to get new links....all this as the band plays on ;).

Here's the thing though, most of the useful traffic comes (or came) through individual pages, not the front. For example (I'm NOT in the travel biz), instead of focusing in "Hotels", I'm focusing in let's say NYC Hotels etc., etc. It's hard to get outbound links for all of them so many links head to the front page and to some of the categories /sitemaps. I know the inpage seo is not a cure all, but if it can give a boost, why not.

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