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Pages Rapidly Dropping Out of Google
diste




msg:193738
 10:54 pm on Jul 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I waited months for my 3000 plus product pages to be indexed. Almost all were finally indexed about three months ago. Business was good. Now, google has dropped all but 414. Business is down. 100 of them dropped out today. Anyone else with this problem lately? I know the results change constantly, but this is ridiculous. I am in the process of putting out more products, still smiling, but losing hope.

 

black




msg:193739
 7:18 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

yes known problem, a lot of threads here.
My suggestion: change domain and move backlinks to the new domain.

IMO the problem is due to varius kind of penalties: dup content, spam pages, manual penalty...

diste




msg:193740
 4:58 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your reply. I am now down to 175 links found on google, so I need to do something. This weekend, I worked on getting more static pages on my website, but it is taking forever. The static pages that are up now, do not seem to have the problem of being dropped.

black




msg:193741
 6:22 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

imo the problem is not static pages; google can't distinguish between static and dynamic pages.
All the things used in dynamic pages can be remapped and make them appear like static pages.
Let us know if you solve this problem; have luck!

buckworks




msg:193742
 6:40 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Don't be too quick to panic. I had something similar happen a few weeks ago, but it had a happy ending. Over a period of a few days, hundreds of pages simply vanished from Google's index. I was busy with other things and didn't have time to try any tweaking. Two or three weeks later, with no action on my part, the pages began appearing in the SERPs again, and since then things have seemed normal.

What's happening to you might just be one of those nobody-knows-why fluctuations. Keep about your normal work and wait a few weeks before you try anything drastic.

my3cents




msg:193743
 6:43 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree with buck, we had 400+ pages indexed in may, by june1 we had only 37, since then I have not made any changes, other than the normal new content we add and have watched many of the pages come back.

We are clean, static, high PR website that is more than 3 years old. Also, the same thing happened last May, we made no changes and everything came back over the course of 4-6 weeks.

jimpoo




msg:193744
 8:24 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

My site which was high google traffic last year, was totally gone on google's SERPs three months ago, after 100+ methods I've tried to use to recover it, I'm failed totally.
I'm not spam, I'm not over-seo, I'm just a webmaster,
finally, I decide to forget about google.

lambo




msg:193745
 9:53 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree with buckworks,
Don't be too quick to panic.

I've seen this happen too many times with Google to raise any panic flags. You may end up with a slow Google month so go out and find a great link that will compensate for the traffic. That's what I did when I had an odd Google month and that link has more than compensated, even when Google popped back in the following month.

This isn't a reflection on you but, people freak out way to quickly when Google has it's moment. Most, not all of us, deal with it at one time or another. There are just too many 'things' it could be to even determine sometimes what it is and then when you blink, it all changes again.

bekyed




msg:193746
 10:26 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Bickworks is correct.

Google is so unpredictable, we too have nearly 4,000 product pages in google for one of our sites, but we do NOT rely on google because of its inconsistency with se results.
Anyone that has been in the game for over 5 years has seen that no search engine can be relied upon especially for free listings.
We all used to optimise for alta vista and excite with incredible results and now these engines are almost non important anymore.
I think google will be here forever to offer free listings, but all good webmasters worth their salt know that a good even round of traffic can be gained from other search engines.
If you have an ecommerce business or businesses you will be better off thinking of google as the cream on the top of your all important visitors.

Bek.

JuniorOptimizer




msg:193747
 11:05 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm with the no panic brigade. I've had pages drop and out and come back for months now. And I mean 1000s at a time.

Birdman




msg:193748
 12:21 am on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

finally, I decide to forget about google.

Good advice, IMO!

Don't base your decisions on what Google is doing, rather make sure YOUR site is running properly. Google will not be OWNING search forever and the best thing(IMO again) to do is play the field now.

IE:
If you are dropping in ALL the engines, then take a hard look at your site.

If you are only losing ground in Google, concentrate on making your site better.

I see sites(mine!) take lumps every now and then, only to come back just as strong as ever.

Do check your site out thoroughly for any problems:

- Check that proper headers [webmasterworld.com] are being returned
- If the site uses cookies, check that session ids are not causing troubles(eg. turn your cookies off and look for sid in URLs)
- Look at your external linking(ie. they MUST be somehow picking up on sites that recip-link heavily and rapidly)
- As mentioned earlier, MAKE SURE you aren't creating dynamic pages that could be misconstrued as duplicate content.(eg. using mod_rewrite to make friendly URLs, but still having scattered dynamic links that will essentially form the exact same document)

Good luck with it,
birdman

sit2510




msg:193749
 6:33 am on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Very good advice from Birdman!

>>> Jimpoo - "after 100+ methods I've tried to use to recover it, I'm failed totally."

That's why you failed...No doubt.

Back to basics - You need a "very cool head" at the time of adversities in SE rankings. Not until the storm has calmed down then you should peep out of the window.

bekyed




msg:193750
 10:23 pm on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Too right not to worry.

If your site is built correctly has good internal and external linking, and you are doing nothing wrong to upset google, you will be fine in the long run.

Bek.

diste




msg:193751
 4:36 pm on Jul 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thank you everyone for all the great comments. I am not so much in panic mode anymore. I added some new links a few days ago to the front page. I noticed the newer page was cached the next day, but only stayed in search for one day. Now, the old front page is back. Strange. Well, I guess I will just have to be patient.

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