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Google blacklisted me
please advise me...
Lukas




msg:163570
 2:56 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi,
my PR dropped to zero and all pages were removed from google so I was probable blacklisted. I heard it's difficult to get out of blacklist by contacting google support and i can't afford to waste time. Will google also blacklisted my new domain if I will put some identical pages there? Please advise me.

Thanks!

 

WebGuerrilla




msg:163571
 4:36 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>Will google also blacklisted my new domain if I will put some identical pages there?

If those pages contain the same content that was originally penalized, then I'd say the chances of getting the boot again are pretty good.

jcoronella




msg:163572
 4:54 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

If you don't know for certain why you were banned, you shouldn't put the same content up as something in the content is the most likely cause.

If you are certain it wasn't the content, I don't see why you couldn't re-use it somewhere else, although it would be best to change it a bit.

rnism




msg:163573
 5:18 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

I also have the same case with you now, and I don't know what is the really cause? How to get an answer about that? Where or who...

sit2510




msg:163574
 5:45 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>> my PR dropped to zero and all pages were removed from google so I was probable blacklisted.... Will google also blacklisted my new domain if I will put some identical pages there? Please advise me.

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First of all, I think you "must be" able to identify what causes you problem and avoid doing it again. If it is the on-page factor, you are at risk to repeat your mistake in your new domain. If it is the off-page page, then tweaking those identical pages to certain degree would be a good idea.

So the lesson learned is better to do the things moderately. Going beyond the borderline could be more expensive.

ddogg




msg:163575
 7:31 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

You're most likely screwed. I had a site banned a few months ago. I am pretty sure I know why, and I corrected the problem. But Google support is full of a bunch of morons. They will not help you. I am almost convinced it is just a computer replying to my emails. For example, they tell me my site isn't even banned. Well I think I can tell when my site is banned. It is fairly obvious to anyone with half a brain.

I love Google, but their support really makes me mad.

wanna_learn




msg:163576
 7:33 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Lukas

Tweak Content, add more content, change Layout, No bad SEO like hidden text...

Start with a new Domain immediately, for google nothing lies in wait and watch!

goodroi




msg:163577
 8:03 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Lukas,

Review everything that you have done for content and building links in the last 2 months. The answer is at least one of those changes. I would not publish the same content on another site, this will only cause problems in the future. Besides you will probably be blocked by the sandbox. I looked at your profile and it looks like you are in one the dirtier neighborhoods where alot of seo is back hat. If you are in that area I would build several sites with unique content and do not interlink them. Chances are this is only your first Google penalty and you will want to diversify your traffic and revenue.

ps double check your robots.txt file

BigDave




msg:163578
 8:05 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

ddogg,

You should demand your money back on that support contract.

Otherwise, you just might consider that you are not, in fact, "banned" but that there is something else happening that is keeping you out of the index. There have even been cases where hosting services have blocked googlebot because it takes up too much bandwidth.

Since they send out a different canned response when sites do not mee their quality guidelines, then it would be best to assume that there is some other problem. And it is your job (not Google's) to figure out what that problem is.

glengara




msg:163579
 8:32 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have my doubts anything "on-page" will get you a G penalty, I'd look at "off-page" stuff....

cabbie




msg:163580
 9:47 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

You can definelty be banned for on page factors.Auto generated text that makes no sense is 1 reason.
Having said that,if you are sure that your content is squeeky clean and you are confident you have banned then you should immediately put your content on another domain.
If you dont someone else will.
I have had more than a few sites penalised by search engines for off page indiscretions but have never encountered problems by putting the content on a new domain.
The only problem is when my competitors see my site banned they rip my content off as well.

DRGather




msg:163581
 10:40 pm on Jun 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

Bahhh... just buy some Adwords. That'll get ya back in. ;)

Seriously though, while buying Adwords probably won't get you BACK in, I've proof that buying Adwords can keep you from getting banned in the first place if you're a buyer before you get caught spamming. Seriously, try it. Find a spammer who's a big Adwords spender and send in a few detailed spam reports. You'll be amazed at how fast those sites either clean up the offending spam, or have no action taken against them at all. In several instances that I've experienced with this, the spam has always been removed within a week of submitting the report. And in all cases, the spam was there for months to years before the report.

Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it? Can we avoid the dreaded banning by paying our annual due to the G gods via Adwords?

*Disclaimer* While I know that Adwords won't save you in ALL cases... it will in many. So before ya flame me I'm not saying this is THE rule... simply that it's an interesting phenomenon.

Lukas




msg:163582
 8:57 am on Jun 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for responses.

Maybe I know where is problem. I have a few pages with picture galleries suppose football players galleries. There is a few identical words and identical design but different title (Manchester, Liverpool etc.) and different pictures (which google don't see). So I could be banned for having identical pages with only different title...Will google banned my site if I will have identical pages with same title (for example football teams)?

DRGather: I use this domain for google adwords...

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