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What does this mean?
Any help here would be appreciated
kiwi webmaster

 9:05 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi there,
My site comes up on google for various search phrases but this morning I notice that the title and text of the site is not displayed - just the URL, with a 'similar pages' link underneath.
Does this mean that googlebot came by but didn't crawl any of the text?



 5:50 pm on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)


It could mean partial indexing in some cases, going by what some members have reported they were told. How long has the site been up, and were you fully indexed before with titles and descriptions?


 8:56 pm on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

This usually happens where Google has seen your URL in a link on some other site, but haven't yet followed the link and indexed the content of the page. So, they just show you the URL to show that they do know about it.

If you ever mistype a URL in a link, then Google will index that typo, but will never be able to follow it. A Google search for site:.pdf will find thousands of links that Google has seen where they could not then access the site mentioned (most of those have a trailing / after the end of the filename that should not be there). It is also almost impossible to find out what site that typo is actually on, so that it can be notified and corrected. That is why you should run a link checker over your whole site every few weeks, or after any major navigation or content update.

kiwi webmaster

 11:20 pm on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your help.
The site has been indexed for over a year showing 150+ back links - Google always showed the title and text content up til now.
I guess it's just a glitch in the bot or something.

kiwi webmaster

 12:09 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Forgot to mention that this is a PR 6 site and the problem is only affecting the home page.


 12:55 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Given the circumstances you described, it sounds like Googlebot might have encountered some kind of error last time it tried to spider your site. Have you been having any problems with your hosting lately?

Also, one of the major backbone providers had some major problems with their network late at night about a week ago, it is possible that this may have caused some problems for Googlebot.


 2:11 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Is the home page file called something other than index.html?


 2:26 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)


Should the home page be named index.html? I've never heard of this being a problem.

I've had the same no title and no description thing for a very long time. It has nothing to do with Google not visiting those pages yet. All of my pages were indexed before this problem occurred.

I honestly think that it is a Google problem. Google sent me an email saying it is because the pages are only partially indexed.

What is the use of partially indexed pages? There is none other than saving bandwidth and being able to claim an exagerated amount of indexed pages.

I never click on pages with no description or title. They are essentially useless pages. Nobody wants to see a link in their search results; they want to see a Title and Description. That's why I don't buy the partial indexing excuse that Google gave me.

Thus, I think these are the most likely possibilities: 1.Google is broken
2.Google is trying to win the largest index race by providing useless results from partial indexing
3.Google has some really dumb geniuses working for them that think a link without Title and Description is useful


 2:57 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

kiwi webmaster's problem seems pretty obviously different than the standard partially indexed url issues, since it only effects his main page, the most likely page to be regularly crawled.


 3:27 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

This started affecting one of my sites about 2 wks. ago. Some pages vanishing totally ,(no site:www.etc.com -fhfhf),but most pages have no titles or descriptions. Site established 4 yrs., pr6.

kiwi webmaster

 3:56 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

The home page is index.html
No Google visits for over 5 days (most unusual).
Last access as follows;

2004-06-06 03:36:38 W3SVC98951 /robots.txt - 404 4184 0 Googlebot/2.1+(+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)

2004-06-06 03:36:39 W3SVC98951 /index.html - 200 19262 485 Googlebot/2.1+(+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)

I have uploaded a blank robots.txt file.
This really is strange - most unlike Google!


 9:05 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

SteveB, I would agree, particularly given that their home page is a PR6.

Kiwi seems to be saying that from looking at their logs, Googlebot has not been around as much as they would normally expect.

If memory serves me correctly, the Internet backbone problem happened a couple of days after Googlebot last showed-up in their logs. I'm wondering if Googlebot tried to spider their site during this outage and wasn't able to reach it.

I would also be keeping a close eye on the hosting and make sure it is staying up.

In any case, the fact the Googlebot seems to be AWOL in their server logs at the same time that their listing details disappeared would seem to confirm the theory that Googlebot was unable to succesfully access their web page.

I would just wait for it to come by again, and your listing should be back up soon thereafter.


 12:30 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

happened to me to on my site, not title or description, just url displayed. year site, pagerank 8.

Has anyone had experiences of this where their site has come back to normal and how long did it take?

kiwi webmaster

 7:40 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi theyellowfrog,
Have you made any changes to your site recently?
Googlebot has not stopped by for over a week now so I'm not sure when this will be cured.
Maybe the next big index update?

kiwi webmaster

 9:56 pm on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you about Googleguy?
I don't mean to be pushy - but would like some feedback as to why this has happened.. so I can prevent it from happening again.


 12:09 am on Jun 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

We have the same issue: almost all of our URLs are listed in the site:mydomain.com guery, but with no title/description. The started on about 5/30 and has progressed from bad to worse to nearly complete.

Anyone have any ideas?

kiwi webmaster

 9:49 pm on Jun 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Can anyone help?


 10:30 pm on Jun 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Has anyone had experiences of this where their site has come back to normal and how long did it take?

Yes, I experienced this recently, there was a programming error on my site that only triggered when a non windows os, like googlebot, visited the site. However, google showed the error code it got for a week or two, then my site vanished from the serps, I fixed the error and then it took about 2 weeks or so to get back in.

Check your page with something like this site's http viewer [seotoolkit.co.uk], it shows you what the googlebot sees when it visits your site, more or less.

Or your site could have been down as others suggested, which would I assume have the same result, minus the error codes.

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