| 3:30 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
To determine if the site that is linking to yours will pass PR to you, go to some of the sites that the site links to and see if backlinks are attributed to your new backlink site from some of the sites that it links to.
I gotta think I coulda said that better..
| 5:09 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Not true. Just because a site is not in the sample of backlinks that Google shows for a site does not mean that it does not pass PR.
How do you explain all those PR2 and 3 sites/pages that have no backlinks showing in the sample - where did they get there PR from?
| 5:26 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Both bsterz and cbpayne are right but from different angles.
It is not necessary that links from PR6/7 would show up as backlinks, so reviewing backlinks of those previously listed sites could give a good idea.
>>> Just because a site is not in the sample of backlinks that Google shows for a site does not mean that it does not pass PR.
Unless it suffers blocked PR, it may pass PR but very little. "Very Little" in the sense that it is not sufficient or qualified to be shown as backlinks.
| 6:08 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
>when would it take effect? when would google see my link to other website?
effect - this happens very very fast fast these days.
>is there a chance that my PR will go up?
yes your pr would go up. wait till the next pr-backlinks update.
| 8:42 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
How often does PR backlink updates take place do you reckon?
I've been on the same number now for a few months.
| 8:48 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|when would it take effect? |
Update in your backlinks according to google might take a little while. A reshuffle of the SERPS as a result of your new anchor text inbounds might happen sooner.
Rome wasn't built in a day. Just keep doing what you're doing, which is the right thing to do, and google will catch up with you eventually.
If you want instant results go buy some AdWords.
Your PR may or may not go up. But who cares - worst case scenario you just guaranteed yourself some potential traffic. It's all good.
| 1:00 pm on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
first thing i would like to thank martinibuster of forum12 he made my post better and clear.
well... as i read your opinions it seems that link development is one of the factors in making one website top in SERP or gain good position.
one more question, when would i see my link partners using google - link:www.widget.com
thanks for all opinions.
edit: add one more question
| 11:47 pm on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I saw a lot of general advice, but no one answered this guy's question...
How long is Google now taking to update the backlinks/PR?
There have been a lot of changes at Google as of late, and this is a question I am wondering about myself.
Are they too busy figuring-out new ways of making $/upcoming IPO and dragging their feet on PR updates? Due to the way PR is calculated, they can't do it for just an individual page, so it's not going be updated as quickly as new page content might. But what is the time-frame now? Exactly how often are they re-calculating PR?
| 3:41 am on Jun 13, 2004 (gmt 0)|
sit2510, cbpayne and bsterz, thanks! You've hit on an issue I've been pondering (given my limited experience): namely the issue of time.
If I understand the prevailing wisdom, a link from a page that is a 7, linked to a lesser-ranked page, should produce a rise in the strength of the receiving page.
That is, unless it is under a no-pass penalty or simply has so many outgoing links that whatever value does get passed is so diluted as to be undetectable. (I hope I got that right.)
I have had frequent encounters with sites whose backlink's strength plainly did not seem to support their standing. My guess is that this is possibly the result of having previously been the recipient of a link from a higher-ranked page, but since the last update, the value of originating page has dropped. It seems plausible that somehow the relevant portion of G's database hasn't caught up yet (still showing backlinks from pages that no longer qualify).
I had been operating (perhaps mistakenly) under the impression that only a 4 or above passed anything appreciable to another page. I also thought that if a page showed as a backlink, that meant it was also passing PR. Recently, I seem to hear a growing consensus that it may have dropped to 3. Am I confused on this?
On several occasions, I have seen a couple of pages that appear as backlinks, whose rating was as low as 1. Even if the new standard is 3, how could a 1 show as a backlink (and therefore presumably passing PR)?
A lag-time between the update of a page's backlinks and the changing of another page's PR seems worth considering, I think.
aspdesigner is right in reminding us that the core of steven mheakyle's excellent question is essentially "But what is the time-frame now?" I don't know when the next PR/backlinks update will be, but I'd be very interested in hearing anything that could reassure me that they are both done at the same time. If I knew THAT, I would be even more enthusiastic about finding out when it will occur.