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The May, 2004 Update

 10:54 pm on May 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

I see new backlinks here:



 6:38 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Can anyone confirm how recent are the links that are updated? Most of the links that I have managed some 25 days back are still not updated.



 6:41 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

My new links from PR7 and PR6 sites addet 3 weeks ago are not there too.


 6:48 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

63 posts in 7.5 hours - its not quite the old dance-update-frenzy thread - but there's still a reasonable level of excitement!



 6:49 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I was so eagerly waiting for this update, but alas, my PR4 pages are now PR3. All new pages that have been deep crawled twice and appear in the index, show PR0. :(
Why is it so, google for the past two weeks was visiting 10-12 pages daily, and I thought that was a sure sign of PR5.
Even the backlinks have increased.


 7:08 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Time to rename the thread as "PR/backlink updat



 7:37 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Surprisingly I'm showing a new backlink on a directory link page with the title "Links".

Title isn't what affects the link showing as a backlink. It's the page name links.****x


 7:47 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree with that BigDave bloke.

If there wasn't a thread here, I couldn't tell there was an update. Our (toolbar) PR down, backlinks (those that they declare) down. SERPS exactly the same or better. Nothing dramatic or earth shattering. not yet...

If you get a blister on your toe while winning the Olympic marathon, you don't complain about the blister.


 8:00 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

PR updated for all new sites, pages...


 8:37 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

"If you get a blister on your toe while winning the Olympic marathon, you don't complain about the blister."

A four year old can check where you are in the serps.

Where you are in the serps matters, but it doesn't matter nearly as much as understanding *why* you are in the serps where you are.


 8:50 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

A clever 4 year old. Maybe the offspring of a webmaster?

I think most people here know a bit about "why", or at least their own versions and theories, leading to some very interesting arguments. If you have high ranking web pages in competitive areas, you probably know more than the average 4 year old.

The toolbar PR is a lovely toy and certainly shows something, but means very little in the big picture. Likewise, the link: tool, shows something, but not everything and has it's uses like finding out who links to your competitors, but not everyone who links to them is shown.

Google gives us some little morsels of information which we gratefully gobble, but we know we need to eat a real meal once in a while or grow thin.

Some people can't see the trees for the forest. Some can only see the trees. It takes all sorts to make a world, it takes all sorts to make a web.

note to self. stop taking the pills


 9:41 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Still seeing PR updates.

PS - Anyone else getting dizzy, we are working on a major superbowl type site here, had 30 million plus hits last year in one day.

But man o man us webmasters go way out of our way sometimes, please Google at least give us some snacks, it has been a while and the google results are poor recently... I should not complain but what's up?

My opinion is this is the quiet before the storm, somethng is brew'in in S.E. lala land!

Opinion 2 - Maybe this is a combination of MSFT going wild and Google going public. Ready for war peoples?



 10:14 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Where are you people located who can see changes? Here in the UK my site PR is unchanged, including white bars for pages added in early May. Also the Google directory hasn't moved and is still showing the PR from about March/early April.


 10:28 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Orange county California is where I see the changes.


Andrew Thomas

 10:33 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)


Im in the UK and seen no changes!


 10:37 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Nothing ever happens
Nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before

(lyrics by Del Amitri)

I was not surprised to find out that one member of that band was from my home town.

You guys in the UK, nothing changes there. That's why I left.


 10:54 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

yes. not much happened here in the uk either.
Pages that should have high pr have stayed the same, links that have been added including a non-recip pr 6 should have pushed us to the top on one of our sites.
This aint over yet i hope.



 11:02 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I must say a very old kinda update, it is not reflecting many of the recent incoming links, any idea till what date backlinks are considered , I guess atleast some 20 days back.


 11:24 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Updates have happened in the UK actually. I'm seeing PR on various pages and sites changed.

What's surprising is that new pages first posted at end April are still not showing visible PR.


 11:36 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Can't remember how to change hosts file to get the toolbar to check another DC. Anyone help?


 11:40 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

macro. I know updates have happened but not much of one for our sites.

Bek :)

peter andreas

 11:41 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Seen the PR update in Australia, traffic similar though


 12:12 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

update or trick or experiment or duck pond?


somethings fishy

Import Export

 12:25 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

[qqfans.com...] is an it/webdev site from the east.


 12:29 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

PR down, not happy :( But SERPS still ok :)


 12:31 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Its not a datacenter IP, so what is it...checking up on webmaster search habits/terms? Pretty easy to isolate those logs.



 12:36 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

It is a google IP - [ws.arin.net...]
They have probably just set it up in their dns to get easy access to it (or play with cookies?)


 2:16 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why is everyone calling this an update. The only thing that seems to have changed is the PR which is normal. Well as far as my SERPS are concerned.


 2:27 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Strange, 11 new back links for a new site, and no toolbar PR. I know PR isnít really indicative of serp results but people like to know their not linking to a bad neighborhood, ie a little green.


 2:36 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Am now seeing PR changes in my UK site. Just an internal redistribution with some pages losing, some gaining.

However Google now shows different PR for / and /index.php when previously they were identical. I thought Google had this sorted...

No change to Google directory yet.


 3:29 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Update to backlinks only is what we are seeing, but
an update is an update and will eventually help.


 3:35 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well also in Europe here, I only see a Pagerank update and an update in backlinks. Further nothing, got even a dmoz link, but the site sits where it has been for over 2 weeks now. So I won't call this an update. (no change in SERPS).

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