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Why Won't Google Increase the Number of Inbound Links?
Google is very strange.
Etar




msg:90273
 8:26 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi,

For along one year google have not increased the number of inbound links to my site even if the number of inbound links to my site continusly increasing!

Regards.

 

Marcia




msg:90274
 11:17 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

If you're referring to the number of links that show with link: or using the toolbar, not all links are show. But they do know about them, even if they don't show them.

jp_css




msg:90275
 11:51 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

From what I have read, Google only displays the links with a PR > 4 when using link:www.example.com. I can't confirm this in any way though.

raptorix




msg:90276
 2:37 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes this can be true, about 6 weeks ago i had about 4 inbound links, but a week later, its down to 2, and both are PR4 pages.

Stefan




msg:90277
 2:47 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Etar, like Marcia said, you're not seeing all the links. G usually only shows backlinks with PR4 or better. They all count whether they show or not, of course.

Why don't you spend a little while checking the PR of all your backlinks, (meaning the PR of all the specific pages that link to your site), and see if the missing ones are less than PR4. That might explain it all. If you find backlinks with PR5 or more that don't show on the link:www.yoursite.com/linked-to-page.htm, then it is perhaps a problem.

Taronket




msg:90278
 3:56 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

I need to point out that Google does not always show all links. For example a competitor is showing a link on a page we are linked on but we are not.

BMach




msg:90279
 7:02 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

try using this

"mydomain.com" -site:www.mydomain.com

instead of link:http://www.mydomain.com

It will show you all the little links that link: will not pick up. Of course the links displayed are as delayed as link: and pr updates but it is very handy in the long term.

BMach




msg:90280
 7:25 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

this is pretty funny. I was just using the thingy i mentioned above and found a link to my site that was my own site but the [mydomain.com...] version instead of the [mydomain.com...] version that I use for linking. I guess someone linked to [mydomain.com...] instead of [mydomain.com....] Or maybye this is just funny to me cause i have a had a little too much to drink tonight. No it's pretty funny. Now I need to hunt down who linked to me the wrong way and give em sh*t!

BMach




msg:90281
 7:52 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

ok sorry for my ramblings but what he hell does "mydomain.com" -site:www.mydomain.com do. I should know since i posted it but the funny thing is that i don't. It seems to pick up smaller links but it also picks up links of pr 4 and greater. I then thought it was just picking up links with www.mydomain.com in the link text but then i found some links with my site tilte as the link text? so basically i have confused the hell out of myself again. does anyone with a clue know whats going on when you search for

"mydomain.com" -site:www.mydomain.com

thanks..............

Hagstrom




msg:90282
 9:24 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

does anyone with a clue know whats going on when you search for
"mydomain.com" -site:www.mydomain.com

A search for "mydomain.com" does just that - finds other sites that mention your site. The down sides are:

  1. It will find sites that mention your site - irrespective of whether they link to you or not.
  2. It will AFAIK not find sites that link to you without mentioning your domain name.

The search will also find pages from your own site - since they have "mydomain.com" in the URL. Therefore the qualifier "-site:www.mydomain.com" is added. Quite unnecessary IMHO since Google will group the results anyway.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:90283
 10:59 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

From what I have read, Google only displays the links with a PR > 4 when using link:www.example.com. I can't confirm this in any way though.

Until this morning I thought that this was pretty much written in stone but while studying another site I noticed that it had a PR3 link showing with the link command?

webnewton




msg:90284
 11:44 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

If you want to see how many pages has google indexed on the web that are liking to you, use the following command

"+www.domain.+com"

Why doesn't google show all the links with command link:www.domaim.com is not known. I really wonder what does this command "backword links" reallu imply.

And why doesn google keep slashing these backwords links durign every major PR update

Any clues anybody.

Grogger




msg:90285
 12:43 pm on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Now I'm really confused. I've been seeing the same thing ... no backlink changes using link:.

However, several backlinks I do see using link: have a PR < 4. When I use BMach's self-described "thingy" ("mydomain.com" -site:www.mydomain.com), there are several links showing that have a PR > 4, including a link from a DMOZ category.

Ugh. I wonder why I even bother looking sometimes.

kaled




msg:90286
 1:30 pm on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Other than using the link: command, you may use alltheweb.com or you may try the following

allintext:"domain.com" -site:domain.com

The quotes may be useful when looking for links to inner pages. You may include www in the allintext: part but it should not be included in the site: part (but does no harm).

However, this is a text search not a link search and many results may be displayed that pass no PR since they are cgi links or not links at all. Also, it assumes that the url is used as (part of) the anchor text - which often is not true.

Kaled.

Etar




msg:90287
 7:17 pm on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well, so if Google only displays the links with a PR > 4, then along one year all the inbound links to my site have PR<4, so Can I infer now that my site is not too much strong or there is some problems with it?

What do you think guys?

Regards.

Kosta




msg:90288
 11:02 pm on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Strange thing this. And even stranger it hasn't been discussed before(?).

My observations:
link:oursite.com returns exactly 6 matches. And all of these actually do have href="http://oursite.com" in their source.
link:www.oursite.com on the other hand returns 840. And this figure I remember, was around 1400 a year ago.

What really annoys me though, link:ourcompetitor.com returns 4,810 hits as link:www.ourcompetitor.com does! Main difference I can see, he's situated in North America and we are not.

Just for the record now, a search for "www.oursite.com" calls it "about 39,400" hits and "www.oursite.com" -site:www.oursite.com still returns ~21,900.
For our competitor this will be 90,900.

Greetíngs, Kosta

kaled




msg:90289
 11:46 pm on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Kosta,

This problem has been discussed. From memory, it's a server configuration issue - the .htaccess file I think.

Kaled.

Kosta




msg:90290
 12:13 am on May 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Kaled,

could you please give me some more hints or keywords?
I've tried to search the site for 'htaccess google backlinks' of no avail.

Grateful, Kosta

Stefan




msg:90291
 1:42 am on May 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Kosta, if you're using Apache, this will do it:

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}!^www\.yoursite\.com
RewriteRule (.*) [yoursite.com...] [R=301,L]

Create a file named .htaccess, put that code in it, then upload it to the folder where your html files are. It has to go up in ascii, so send it as a .txt file, .htaccess.txt, then rename it to .htaccess Make sure you put the dot at the front.

That will send GET's for yoursite.com to www.yoursite.com

It will do it for the bots too, so it will train them to only list the right version.

(Code courtesy of a mod on one of the other forums and I hope he doesn't mind...)

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