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Google did not notice this!
It is really working!
hotice_2002




msg:173391
 10:30 am on May 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

I found one compnay is using the follwing code to spam google, and google did not notice this kind of spam.

Code:

<div id="text" style="position:absolute; width:693px; height:1px; z-index:1; left: 49px; top: 18px;">
<marquee direction="up" width="1" height="1">
Hidden text & more hidden text!
</marquee>
</div>

 

dvduval




msg:173421
 3:34 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I reported this exact problem to Google a while ago for multiple sites. The sites were temporarily removed for about a month and then were right back in.

I think the consensus at the time was why not just put real links on the page?

And why not beat them with real links on the page? (not hidden)

nippi




msg:173422
 3:39 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

paper beats rock
1 beats 6

but no, i'd not risk it with this technique, I'm only curious about the benefit being to bottom dwellers vs top shelf

Teknorat




msg:173423
 4:21 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is all very interesting. Our Competitors are selling the same widgets as us all at higher prices. Their sites look ugly and are hard to navigate and they (having been in the game longer) have higher PR than us. Is it worthwhile linking to them for real? (Not with hidden text.)

SlowMove




msg:173424
 4:25 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is all very interesting. Our Competitors are selling the same widgets as us all at higher prices. Their sites look ugly and are hard to navigate and they (having been in the game longer) have higher PR than us. Is it worthwhile linking to them for real? (Not with hidden text.)

Can't say, but if you do, tell your users to compare prices.

kaled




msg:173425
 9:51 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

RE my earlier post

If you only link to sites that would otherwise be above you, (ignoring filters, manual intervention, etc.) you cannot harm your own position.

In addition, provided the togglediv link is clearly visible, this would not be breaking the rules, merely bending them a little. This is definitely no darker than light-gray hat.

Kaled.

mifi601




msg:173426
 1:56 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I used to live in New York City and rode a bicycle.

Every time a lock manufacturer came out with a new lock - they would break it.

Any algo can be 'broken'.

Where do you draw the line between SEO and a 'good site'?

The two are not dissimilar. they share a lot of the same characteristics and the more difficult the lock gets, the better the tools to 'break' them become.

raptorix




msg:173427
 2:26 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

Some people talk about "Good Seo's" because they can do nifty tricks, well every decent javascript programmer can build some stupid script which manipulates search results. But i don't call that a good SEO. A good SEO knows that its just a matter of time before someone reports it, or even worse, google will detect the site is cheating.

A good SEO truly helps a client in getting usefull traffic to his site, and yes that can take some time.

I started my website 2 months ago, i did build a lot of usefull content, have a very active forum, already got official parnterships with official websites (my website is music related), and i am sure within 6 months my website will be high in the rankings.

The only thing i can say is that if you want quality positions in the rankings, is that you are patient, and don't spend time in foolin bots.

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