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Capitalization in page names
Does it make a difference to Google?
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Msg#: 23379 posted 2:45 am on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

This may be old hat, although I didn't see anything under site search for the topic. I noticed that if I do a search for Widget City, sites like example.com/widget-city.htm will have widget-city highlighted, however example.com/Widget-City.htm will not have the Widget-City.htm page highlighted. In the past, when I made a page about a city or person, I used capitals to name the page out of respect. Has this been a mistake all along? I realize that keywords in the name of a page may play only a small roll if any in Googles algo, but it seems strange that the page name would not be highlighted.

 

funandgames

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Msg#: 23379 posted 5:14 am on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have never noticed any difference with capital letters anywhere. Has anyone else?

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Msg#: 23379 posted 6:01 am on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

No. Capitalization doesn't really make a difference either way, and I know that when searching, the query is treated as case insensitive.

celenoid

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Msg#: 23379 posted 7:05 am on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've noticed the same thing happening since the "new look" G came about. Fewer highlights on multi-case URL's indeed, but doesn't appear to be affecting serps... anyone?

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Msg#: 23379 posted 10:09 pm on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have done loads of searches over the last few days and I couldn't find a single site with CamelCaps filenames in the SERPs to test the theory on.

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Msg#: 23379 posted 9:51 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have done loads of searches over the last few days and I couldn't find a single site with CamelCaps filenames in the SERPs to test the theory on.

Try typing in "tampa weather" without the quotations. You will see both the words Tampa and weather in the URL's returned. When weather or tampa are capitalized, they are not highlighted. When they are lower case, they are.

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Msg#: 23379 posted 10:17 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

I see it. Yeah. It is as you describe. I didn't think of using Location searches, as being ones more likely to have capital letters at the beginning of words.

I'm betting that Google doesn't take account of keywords in URLs in the algo, and that they just highlight the words as they appear in the HTML SERPs; and that there is a simple bug somewhere in the word-highlighting routine.

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Msg#: 23379 posted 10:27 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just tried "Tampa Weather", "tampa weather" and "tampa Weather" and they all came back exactly the same with all the same words highlighted. No matter how it is entered in the search box "Weather" and "weather" both end up highlighted.

I must be on a different datacenter or they fixed the bug since the start of this thread.

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Msg#: 23379 posted 10:39 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you seeing either Tampa or weather highlighted within the URL or page name only, when the word is capitalized? The snippet will have the words highlighted in either case.

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Msg#: 23379 posted 10:43 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

In all of the URLs (bottom line of the result -- the grey one) the Capitalised words are never highlighted.

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Msg#: 23379 posted 10:51 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Okay, now I see what you are saying.

I suspect it is just a bug in the highlighting code. It gets it everywhere else.

celenoid

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Msg#: 23379 posted 10:54 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Slightly off topic (slightly on topic).

In relation to odd URL highlighting, I noticed the other day some more *bugs?* in which characters composing escaped chars are highlighted as though they were search terms.

For example, "allinurl:.php?p" returns a number of results in which "p" in the escaped "&" symbol (escaped to "&") is displayed and highlighted as though it were part of the real URL. A little wordy to explain, do the search to see what I mean...

Not a big problem I'm sure. Makes me think that along with the case sensitive URL matching, there are still a few bugs in the URL highlighting scripts...

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Msg#: 23379 posted 11:34 pm on Apr 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hm, spotted this on Mar 29, during the initial analysis of the new look:

[webmasterworld.com...]

msg #59

Text identification bug:
If you search for "Widgetville" then any occurrences of "Widgetville" aren't highlighted in the URL whereas occurrences of "widgetville" are. This is also the case if you search for the non-capitalised version.

Interesting that GG now says that it doesn't count for anything - in that case, why highlight the search term to say "Hey, Google found it here!"?

Is there a search term that picks up a page just because of the occurrence of the search term in the URL?

IITian

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Msg#: 23379 posted 12:39 am on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Interesting that GG now says that it doesn't count for anything - in that case, why highlight the search term to say "Hey, Google found it here!"?

I have a file named (changed) cow-grass.html and when I seached for Cow S. Grass (full name) (or cow s grass) a few days ago, it highlighted cow-grass, leading me to think that feature is just a show-off. :)

RobinC

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Msg#: 23379 posted 12:59 am on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

The search engine highlite code on my site (ie, javascript that highlites words if my site was found via a search) goes through the words in the query one at a time then highlites them - hence the "s" would be found before the "grass"...

Makes me think it needs tweaking to put them in an array and pull them out longest first ;-)

Robin

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Msg#: 23379 posted 7:03 am on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm not an authority on Unix file naming conventions, but as I understand it, Unix filenames are by default case sensitive after the end slash that follows the domain tld.

While Google is not case sensitive with regard to search queries, I have seen in the past that it is case sensitive about filenames when the server is case sensitive about the filenames... ie, it will see PageName.html and pagename.html as two different files.

It's possible, as I understand it, to set up an Apache server so it's not case sensitive. It may be that the highlighting examples you see in the returned filenames reflect the server preferences. Someone who knows more about Apache servers should jump in here.

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Msg#: 23379 posted 1:34 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

One of my sites is on a server using a OS where filenames are not case-sensitive. Filenames for this site that use the format "BlueWidgets.htm" (ahem... this was before I knew better) are not highlighted in the serps when searching for "blue widgets."

Beth

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