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"The Ides of March" Google Update
twinsrul

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Msg#: 22887 posted 12:01 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Like many others, my network of sites has been hit hard by this latest March google update. I have not been able to tell what has changed in the google algo & why my sites are ranking lower. Anyone here been able to beat this latest update? Any tips or tricks you'd like to share?

 

GranPops

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Msg#: 22887 posted 12:59 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

No idea really.

Firstly.............
'Tis a case of the blind leading the blind.

The two guys who know, and their employees, ain't saying nuffin'.

Secondly..............
Each time I have a stab at something, the G engineers change their algo, up to 10 times a month by my reckoning.

Midhurst

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Msg#: 22887 posted 1:04 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Granpops,
Another point.
What about your inside pages?
Do they target different keywords?
If they do, how are they fairing in the Serps.
And, how do these pages compare with your last known positions in Yahoo?
Your observations in the Google/Yahoo thread would be appreciated

GranPops

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Msg#: 22887 posted 1:09 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Have only worked on two of the pages so far.

Never looked at Yahoo, or any other SE, as all my sites are only for fun and my interest is the G algo.

Luxor1

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Msg#: 22887 posted 6:17 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

When user search for something and find it on Google,then in certain way search result becomes bookmark in his mind at least for short period of time
and he expects to find it tomorrow on the same page.
If user finds every day different result on first page then search results become burden and average user must unnecessary switch to less sophisticated engines
because results are more stable there for a longer period of time. (like MSN etc.)
Google is missing the point here as of late.

Dugger

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Msg#: 22887 posted 6:19 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Exactly! I overheard two people discussing the web at a party the other night and the both were wondering what happened to Google. When they performed searches on Google they were not getting the results they were used to and now were using Yahoo because it provided the info they expected to find when they did a search.

The "regular public" does notice the results are junk and Google is losing loyal users as a result.

Robert123

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Msg#: 22887 posted 8:50 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Please, google may not be perfect, but they are still light years ahead of yahoo which updates its index like every six weeks unless you use their stupid site match.....that is stale

isitreal

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Msg#: 22887 posted 10:45 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

When user search for something and find it on Google,then in certain way search result becomes bookmark in his mind at least for short period of time
and he expects to find it tomorrow on the same page.
If user finds every day different result on first page then search results become burden and average user must unnecessary switch to less sophisticated engines

Exactly. all this tweaking is a bad idea if long term results are the goal, if boosting income and maximizing the coming IPO is the goal then what is happening is totally logical. We are after all talking about Billions of dollars here. I used to use google as a bookmark, now I always make a bookmark since the page might be gone tomorrow, very bad long term planning on google's part, gets rid of that user loyalty element, makes it just another commodity product.

Since it's self evident that more and more directories are showing up in the results it's hard to understand what googleguy is/was looking at, I'm getting directories on many searches I do now for non technical stuff. Normal non tech users are noticing declining result quality, is this a case of missing the forest for the trees? More and more often I'm having to abandon google searches and use Yahoo, that never happened before, and even multiple word technical searches.

To Google's credit, they did successfully filter out a bunch of sites I do that should have been eliminated due to their excessively spammy nature, we used to have 3 or 4 sites in top 10 for our search term, now we don't.

Interesting as googleguy's comments can be, my ideal source for information does not work at the organization I'm trying to get information about, or if he does, he hates the company, I learned that when a really good friend worked at microsoft, over the years he lost his perspective and started more and more uncritically accepting the ms position on almost everything... too bad, I used to get the real dirt on ms...

kahuna

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 22887 posted 11:39 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Right on ISITRIGHT....

I have super repeat traffic from bookmarks... while Google traffic decreases all the time and Yahoo increases.

For instance.... I have a major weather page for my locality in the north Atlantic..... and it gets "tweaked" all the time for changes........ but now.... the prominent Google return for the keywords is a Miami newspaper that
just regurgitates A-c-cu- puke information......... 5000 miles away as the "source" of information...
Anybody using Crapple can see this in a heart beat.....
Anybody notice all the changes in DMOZ and how they are keeping their double/multiple listings and domain searchs from public review? Hey Marcia.... got the dope on our favorite scam artists?

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