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Google Page Rank of 7 Opportunity
Page Rank of 7 possiblility
JoeD




msg:62222
 6:43 pm on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have a chance to bid on an expired domain that still retains a page rank of 7 and approximatley 330 inbound links.
It is not the same topic as my own site.
Can anyone tell me if its valuable. Current bids are $500 .

Is it worth the money of I were to add content to the domain similar to my site and link to to my own ste from it

Thanks

 

shrirch




msg:62223
 1:55 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

It is not the size of your pagerank, it is how you use it that counts.

trimmer80




msg:62224
 3:52 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

I might be worth while but you need to consider a couple of things.
- Will the 300 inbound links still exist in a month or two. When the webmasters that have linked to the site see that it has changed its content they may remove the link.
- Those 300 links could all have been reciprical, in which case they will removed it at some stage.

Birdman




msg:62225
 3:53 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Also, Google removes pagerank when domains change hands.

GoogleGuy




msg:62226
 3:54 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

If you're looking at the same data I am, I wouldn't bid over one tenth of that price. Buy it if you like the name or think the residual visitors from dangling links are worth it, but not if you're looking for the PageRank boost.

The smart money has already noticed some expired domains dropping out of DMOZ, and there's other signs out there for people to notice. I'll see if I can accelerate that PR drop for a batch of PR7 domains, as a favor to keep you from getting a bad deal. :)

jcoronella




msg:62227
 4:36 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmmm... GoogleGuy dropping someones pagerank as a favor?! Juicy! ;)

I think you should hold off on that GG, some 'expiring' domains are just lazy webmasters who pay at the last moment. You wouldn't want to drop a guys page rank just for being a procrastinator....

(assuming it's not already expired and in someone elses hands, but actually expiring)

rfgdxm1




msg:62228
 4:48 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

>The smart money has already noticed some expired domains dropping out of DMOZ

The ODP software is doing this automatically. I'm an ODP editor, and just discovered this today. The software automatically removed a listing from the publicly viewable directory, and kicked it back into unreviewed with a highly visible red tag saying "THIS DOMAIN HAS EXPIRED", and listing the date it will become publicly available. There is even an link to an informative page advising editors how to deal with this situation who may not be familiar with domain hijacking.

To put it in simple English for those not so ethical webmasters who think they can get away with inheriting an ODP listing by snatching up expired domains, think again. There is now a software solution in place to prevent that. For those who don't know that the ODP has got wise to domain name hijacking, you may provide some amusement for editors as they drop your hijacked domain in the bit bucket. :)

MarkHutch




msg:62229
 4:59 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

As long as they are expired, I don't see any problem with this. However, if you start removing domains that are within 30 days of expiration, then that might be a problem. Just my opinion!

cabbie




msg:62230
 5:01 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>>I'll see if I can accelerate that PR drop for a batch of PR7 domains, as a favor to keep you from getting a bad deal.

No one expects google to keep the pr of an expired domain GG but why do you have to go so far as penalise that domain for having been preowned.
I have expired domains That have hardly any old links and have a lot of new ones including new Dmoz listings and still one year on Google refuses to rank them in the serps.Fairs Fair!
Remove the pr but let the domain start afresh.

JoeD




msg:62231
 8:26 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for all your feedback.

I think I will give it a miss and try it the old fashioned way

Cheers

Marval




msg:62232
 11:02 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

cabbie - gotta agree with you on this one - having bought domains based on the names and then finding out they were expired domains later (based on the googlebot requests for dirs/urls that 404'd) and I'm still waiting for these domains to earn the rankings based on the work I've done in the last year and a half. I see a lot of people say "you should have checked the history of the domain" and my response is always - why should I have to if Im just going for a name that is on topic and theme and is good for my visitors? I remember someone posting in here some time ago that the slate would be wiped clean on expireds (as it should be) and the new owner would have a fresh start - but that's not happening

SlowMove




msg:62233
 11:12 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'll see if I can accelerate that PR drop for a batch of PR7 domains, as a favor to keep you from getting a bad deal.

There are only two ways it could be a good deal. The first is if the backlinks will bring in a lot of "qualified" traffic, and that's only useful if the owners of the sites linking don't decide to drop the links. The other is if the domain name is good.

DoppyNL




msg:62234
 11:18 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Allthough it might be good to give those domains a fresh start, it can also be a bad idea.

You can imagine that there will be people clearing the `status` of their domain this way. Simply let it expire or transfer it to a `new` owner (your partner for instance) and you get a fresh start to do bad stuff.

Having said that, I think it would be best to clear the complete record of a domain when it's transferred to a new owner or when it is expired (and not bought by someone else) **UNLESS** it has a negative ranking. (caused by spamming for instance).
That way, everybody will be able to get the domain they like and they won't get the old ranking with it. You would have to build your own ranking.
At the same time, it would also prevent bad people from `clearing` their domain from the negative status.

Ledfish




msg:62235
 11:52 am on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

" I'll see if I can accelerate that PR drop for a batch of PR7 domains, as a favor to keep you from getting a bad deal. :) "

GG - Are you drunk or just being sarcastic?

creative craig




msg:62236
 12:07 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'll see if I can accelerate that PR drop for a batch of PR7 domains...

The way that it is worded, the PR will be dropped anyway. He/she ;) is just speeding it all up a little.

Craig

SlowMove




msg:62237
 3:53 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

>The way that it is worded, the PR will be dropped anyway.

Right. It takes a while for Page Rank to update. I don't think it is a PR7 site.

DaveN




msg:62238
 3:58 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

you may provide some amusement for editors as they drop your hijacked domain in the bit bucket. :)

or you may supply some editors with beer money :P

DaveN

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