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WWW2 & 3
different results.
needinfo




msg:209450
 10:10 am on Mar 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

WWW2 & 3 are showing big changes in the SERPs to WWW as of this morning in the UK.

Anybody else noticing anything,

 

simonuk




msg:209480
 1:20 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

The results showing on [216.239.57.98...] are *almost* the pre-florida posistions and on some of my sites they are exactly where they were pre-florida.

Interesting.

Simon.

martinibuster




msg:209481
 1:31 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Saturday night, friends, dinner with the romantic interest...

Yes!

And don't forget the Vodka.

mfishy




msg:209482
 1:39 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

<<I see different results every 5 minutes or so... I don't like the "new" one at all, I went from #2 to #7, #11 to #19, #2 to #10 for my major keywords. >>

hehe, it's tough to comment as there has been many shifts. For a moment, I was seeing some results that reminded me a lot of 3-4 months ago. I can't possibly look at all our sites/serps, but a couple of my "favorites" are taking a pretty good beating :)

metrostang




msg:209483
 1:55 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Is it possible that we are seeing G finally updating their database with the results of the last 3 or 4 weeks crawling? I started seeing a few deep pages from my site showing up yesterday and this afternoon more are showing up. Up until now, my index is the only fresh page in weeks.

I'm sure that many have made changes to their sites in response to the recent updates and we may be seeing movement as a result of those changes finally hitting the searches.

Stefan




msg:209484
 2:19 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

And don't forget the Vodka.

With a little vermouth... :-)

<On topic>Don't Panic. Steady as she goes.</on topic>

Marcia




msg:209485
 3:06 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

It doesn't look like an update from where I sit. Just a bit of movement here and there, but that's always happening.

pageoneresults




msg:209486
 3:09 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

But that's always happening.

lol, the only time I really watch an update is when the official thread is posted here. Based on a handful of test terms that I carefully watch, Google is updating by the hour. There is constant movement in the top ten.

ALbino




msg:209487
 3:31 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't know about an update, but all of the SERPs I watch are different.

idoc




msg:209488
 3:45 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

"216.239.57.98/"

A page with PR=0 containing 11 affiliate tracking links links is now #1 for a financial service prefaced by most of the state names: "state" "service" ...brilliant.

At least now I know what works... first delete all the relevant on-topic text...these ranking pages have no text except for menu anchor text and the rest of the page are gif's. No relevant body text on the page at all.

[edited by: idoc at 3:59 am (utc) on Mar. 7, 2004]

rfgdxm1




msg:209489
 3:57 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Based on a handful of test terms that I carefully watch, Google is updating by the hour. There is constant movement in the top ten.

What I am seeing here too. And quite a bit of variation between datacenters. You can see why I specifically up the thread refused to use the U word, and left it as "something is up". Google ain't like it used to be.

Kirby




msg:209490
 4:47 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Very interesting, yet widely fluctuating results. Tim's gotta be loving this. I'll bet he prayed all week for some Google changes and a new mega post thread regarding G instead of Y!

mil2k




msg:209491
 8:05 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

mega post thread regarding G instead of Y!

LMAO. Anything to shift the focus off Yahoo ;)

Regarding the update .. am seeing some changes but then those happen everyday. Nothing drastic in my end of woods.

Marcia




msg:209492
 8:44 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Agreed, mil2k. I think what we're seeing is a bit of an algo tweak, and keeping up with those is like trying to hit a moving target. How can there be an "update" until there's a tallying of links and PR? When we get hit with that plus an algo shift, then we'll have something.

allanp73




msg:209493
 9:35 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't see an update. Though I did notice some of my competitor's sites were filtered out again. I shouldn't complain but I would rather have competitors that are relevent than be amoungst directories, which have, as their only virtue, links to my sites annd my competitors. I worry that if this tweaking of the filter continues it will see the end of the majority of legitimate commercial sites.

Crush




msg:209494
 10:23 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

My sites have been bouncing around for the last few weeks so now like others say that it is difficult to tell.

What I do see on www2 and 3 a site of mine that has been round since the dawn of time into position 40. That is not on!

needinfo




msg:209495
 10:40 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

It all sounds a bit too much like a much smaller version of the Florida update to me... sites dropping quite a few places, sites jumping around.. etc..

I hope it isn't though.

Has anybody seen these changes on WWW for any length of time or even on other datacentres except for those already mentioned?

Crush




msg:209496
 10:50 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

needinfo I cannot see it on any data centers at all from Prague. I do see it on www2 and www3 though.

Guess we need Google Guy to come in an clarify. From experience backlinks usually update first followed by a dance and that is not happening in this case so I guess it is some rearranging.

Marval




msg:209497
 11:41 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Crush - here for the last 3 months we have been having backlinks and PR updated completely separated from the updates - every 15 days or so - of course now I think its been about 25 days since the last backlinks so we are due in my book

wellzy




msg:209498
 1:01 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Marval
When was the last PR update? Seems like it's been a LONG time. I have a lot of new pages that are included, but still have no PR.

wellzy

mil2k




msg:209499
 1:46 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

When was the last PR update? Seems like it's been a LONG time.

Yes, the pattern was Backlinks update followed by PR Update. But last time around we did not have PR update after the backlinks update. So PR update is due long time.

zeus




msg:209500
 2:17 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

No update, the serps are just moving a little, my site moves everyday 3-5 places and there are no changes in link count, so no update.

zeus

robster124




msg:209501
 2:45 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

im seeing quite different results in my field of interest. gone from nowhere to top.

mfishy




msg:209502
 3:10 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

<<my site moves everyday 3-5 places and there are no changes...>>

If you are looking at one site or area, it really isn't a good indicator of much. I am seeing quite a few pages (100's) move up or down over 25-50 spots, which is a bit different than the usual daily shifts.

Frankly, I could care less what it is called but if the new SERPS make their way to www, we are again looking at a pretty significant algo change (meshes with what Matt Cutts said at PubCon).

Crush




msg:209503
 3:25 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

(meshes with what Matt Cutts said at PubCon).

What Did Mr Cutts say?

Kirby




msg:209504
 3:30 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

mfishy, I have been seeing these results on www for 12 hours now in S. California.

Crush




msg:209505
 3:57 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I saw them breifly on hotbot....Yuk. Back to normal for now though. Still see no changes on the data centers but www2 and 3 have these new SERPS. That is weird as usually 2 and 3 reflect the results of one of the data centers and now they are completely different.

union_jack




msg:209506
 4:22 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

yep.. big changes on my keywords on 2 & 3 took a bit of a hit again if it sticks.. Back to the drawing board :-(

mfishy




msg:209507
 5:00 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

<<What Did Mr Cutts say?>>

That the days of the same scoring algo for 8 months plus are history and that webmasters should get used to the fact that Google will now be introducing new scoring quite often.

GoogleGuy




msg:209508
 5:17 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I haven't checked, but I'm not aware of anything too large launching in the last day or so. People should expect to see daily or near-daily updates this coming year as we continually update our index data, but I'm not aware of any large algorithm updates that would merit calling this an update.

Kirby




msg:209509
 5:27 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I like these ongoing updates coupled with the frequent crawling and freshtags. How much is this going to cost me per click though?

rfgdxm1




msg:209510
 6:13 pm on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

>I haven't checked, but I'm not aware of anything too large launching in the last day or so. People should expect to see daily or near-daily updates this coming year as we continually update our index data, but I'm not aware of any large algorithm updates that would merit calling this an update.

Which is why I so wisely refrained from using the U word in this thread. ;) The way I use the word "update" is analogous to an earthquake. Big shock, and things change a lot. What's going on here is more just a tremor, and not a full blown Earthquake. A little jolt, but nothing major.

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