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How do i get PR more than 5
how to increase PR to more than 5
sanjaykattimani




msg:174575
 6:49 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

One of our site just shows the PR 2. How can i increase it to more than 5 [ Although aim should be to get it to 10/10 :p i am not that greedy ;) ]

Although this site has many inbound links (about 30) and gets top 10 ranking for many keywords from google.

 

johnlim




msg:174576
 7:22 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

The best way is enhance the quality of the site then others will link to your site

ip2665




msg:174577
 7:33 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

You need traffic not PR. As long as you got people keep coming back to your site, it means your site is good and automatically it's good traffic.

Keep trying to build quality rich content pages. I'm sure it will help, but ofcourse it couldn't be done by 1 night though.

sanjaykattimani




msg:174578
 7:49 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well we have quite good contents on the site. I am afraid its all not getting crawled.
This page [snip] is there since more than 3 months, and was crawled. Lot of users (atleast 300 per month) but has PR 0

We also have lot of seo related information & most of it is optimized, because of which we shud be getting lot of users, but its not happening.

[edited by: vitaplease at 9:42 am (utc) on Mar. 4, 2004]
[edit reason] as per TOS - no url drops please [/edit]

dhaliwal




msg:174579
 8:39 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

well you are a SEO and still want to knwo about the priciples of getting better PR.

Well one thing i should say is that you will need links from better PR pages, ans every time google spider comes to your page from a Higher PR page, you get a vote, but it depends on the PR of page and the outward links that page is having.

this is what i know as of now, if i get to know more, i will pass on to you.
and if your pages are crawled quite often, you will need to keep changing content for a better ranking.

regards,
dhaliwal

sanjaykattimani




msg:174580
 9:12 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

well being SEOs these we know. But we were exploring other reasons that could be have brought our PR down.

Telco_Guy




msg:174581
 9:25 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well, I can tell you why this page has a PR0. I did a search for the first paragraph (in quotes) and found 8 pages with that exact same paragraph. This is duplicate content and therefor it gets a PR0.

vrtlw




msg:174582
 9:31 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

As link drops are against the TOS of these forums I would that if you don't remove your link it will be done for you.

What I would say though as I had chance to see your link was that page and code bloat could have a huge part. Even without latency issues 100+k for a few words and graphics on a page is way above board.

creative craig




msg:174583
 9:43 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Even though you are trying to optimise your site to rank well, I would say that it is over optimised. I can not go more than one line with out your keywords jumping up at me. It spoils the read for the surfer which at the end of the day is the most important thing of all! Just my opinion :)

Also considering that the home page only has a PR2 it will be difficult to get it any PR, hunt for links and your PR may increase.

Craig

dhaliwal




msg:174584
 9:54 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

well i am looking for advice?
will anyone tell me why my dynamic pages are not ranked and crawled by google recently

the website has been there for more than 8 months, gets lot of visitors from google, but still the pages are not refreshed in the index.

my main website is crawled everyday by google but not the pages that main page directs it to

i need an early reply, please help me, its like banging my head against wall as i develop more content which will not be indexed.

dhaliwal

vrtlw




msg:174585
 9:59 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

will anyone tell me why my dynamic pages are not ranked and crawled by google recently

It all depends on how they are implemented - cgi, php, ssi, have you used a mod-rewrite to get rid of query strings, how about session ids? Need some more info really.

creative craig




msg:174586
 9:59 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

I think that you will find Google does not like to index sites with dynamic urls, it will give it ago... but dont count on it picking them up. If they are long strings such as example.com/aspx?=id=123=56 then you will have difficulties in getting them crawled and indexed.

If you are on an Apache server then you may need to use mod_rewrite, if you are on a windows server the an Isapi filter could do the job of removing the strings and making them more search engine friendly.

Craig

sem4u




msg:174587
 10:04 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Google will index dynamic URLs and is getting better at it. One of my new sites have a load of static pages which have been crawled by Google, but the asp pages have yet to be picked up. I am hoping that these pages can be crawled. Once PR has updated then there is a good chance that they might be.

vrtlw




msg:174588
 10:06 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Once PR has updated then there is a good chance that they might be.

I have yet to see a case when a higher shown PR has related to an increase in spidering, perhaps an increase in link requests but that is about it.

creative craig




msg:174589
 10:09 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Daily we get clients with thousands of dynamic pages that are not picked up and have never been crawled they are well linked to from site maps or text navigation links. They do get the odd page picked up, but from my experience not a great deal.

Best to play it safe with url rewriting of some sort, also makes it more user friendly :)

Craig

sem4u




msg:174590
 10:15 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

So do you have to go and re-write the URLs? Is this a difficult and time consuming job?

It is not a big deal for my new website because there is enough static content but it would be helpful :)

creative craig




msg:174591
 10:24 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just worked on a site where it was easy due to the fact they had spent a large amount of money on a cms system that had rewriting already built in, just they did not know it :)

mod_rewrite is for Apache, if you use Windows server then an Isapi filter would need to be installed and then configured to do the rewriting... I have heard they can be very exspensive.

[edited by: creative_craig at 12:27 pm (utc) on Mar. 4, 2004]

dhaliwal




msg:174592
 10:42 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

creative craig and sem

Your advice is good, but its a kind of question

as i think you guys are senior webmasters and also more into SEO, why don't you guys shower some concepts of making better rankings on us.

Well you may laucgh, but i am only into developing better pages for my web users and not according to the way google want them.

Also as many people said that i would need to add up simple htm pages, i have done that too, but it hasn't given me better ranking

and craig, your creative confusion is good idea and a great name

lol being creative and confused

regards,

dhaliwal

vrtlw




msg:174593
 10:49 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Also as many people said that i would need to add up simple htm pages

These pages can "apparantly" be created automatically using a mod rewrite, you may want to search the Apache Web Server forum for more info.

As for "creative confusion" I am at a loss, I do not see any reference to that phrase in the thread or anyhting much more than a question from sem4u?

creative craig




msg:174594
 10:50 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

lol being creative and confused

I get out of bed like it most mornings, those are the days when its best to stay in bed ;)

adfree




msg:174595
 10:51 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

dhaliwal - why don't you guys shower some concepts of making better rankings on us...

This is exactly what everyone is doing around here all the time. You might be in the wrong spot to learn specifics so look around in all forums at WebMasterWorld, use the site search with your keywords in question and study.

Basically what you need is 2 hours a day of studying and digesting, this is what brought me here and this is what I have been doing for more than a year now, pretty much everything I know today I have learned from this place.

Read, read, read, there is nothing that hasn't been discussed around here. And because of that there are questions and topics you need to develop for yourself. Nobody is going to repeat themselves hundred times because the same type question pops up with every new user (and I think there are tons of new guys coming in every day).

So, do some homework first and participate, it is the most rewarding spot on the web for anyone who wants to grow.

Your very specific question of how to obtain better ranking finds hundreds of answers around here, you need to find them and sort out the right stuff suitable for your environment, tasks, strategy and topics.

Have fun and play.

mil2k




msg:174596
 12:23 pm on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Read, read, read, there is nothing that hasn't been discussed around here. And because of that there are questions and topics you need to develop for yourself. Nobody is going to repeat themselves hundred times because the same type question pops up with every new user (and I think there are tons of new guys coming in every day).

Excellent Advice. Couldn't agree more. Most of the topics discussed over here have been dealt in numerous old threads. Also explore the library in each forum as they have some excellent discussions. Hope that helps. :)

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