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Google turns Google Compute on without permission
Google is running a program on my computer without my permission
PhilC

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Msg#: 22339 posted 1:13 am on Feb 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

For the last few days, my firewall has popped up a box asking me if a Google program could access the Internet. I have the Toolbar and the desktop thingy installed, but I thought it was odd as it hasn't happened in the past. Anyway, I OKed it and didn't take much notice, but I've just had a closer look. It's Google Compute.

Google Compute is a distributed program that runs on willing people's computers and uploads its results to Google. It's like SETI at Home, if you've come across that one.

I've never agreed to allow Google to use my machine for that or any similar purpose, I've never turned an option on for it, and when I've been asked about it on a Google form, I've always declined. But it's suddenly been turned on behind my back. I wasn't even aware that the programming for it was on my machine, but it is - and it's running!

Google is using my computer to run their programs without my knowledge or agreement - and I'm mad!

 

jazzx

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Msg#: 22339 posted 10:31 pm on Feb 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

hi philc

just wondering, do you have the google toolbar with or without the advanced features installed?
rgds

jazzx

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Msg#: 22339 posted 10:42 pm on Feb 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

philc

just short - to stop the new feature of the google toolbar:
just click on the double helix icon in the google toolbar and select the stop computing option.
hope this helps
jazzx

claus

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Msg#: 22339 posted 10:45 pm on Feb 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

It seems it's a beta toolbar feature that you can be "invited to" enable:

[toolbar.google.com...]

...and that all G toolbars will get it eventually. Perhaps sopmebody else has accepted the invitation (the form) when using your computer?

abates

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Msg#: 22339 posted 1:36 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wonder how long "eventually" will be... Compute seems to have been in test mode forever. :)

sun818

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Msg#: 22339 posted 1:47 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Another form of free advertising if you use your domain name as your userid? ;)

PhilC

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Msg#: 22339 posted 2:02 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

jazzx. I think I must have the advanced features because under the More tab of the Option there is a Web Buttons heading, under which is listed the Google Compute Client button. When I realized what was happening I found that the button had been checked, though not by me. However, the double helix button wasn't displayed on the toolbar at the time. I unchecked it and, so far, Google Compute hasn't tried to access the Internet again - or my firewall is not asking me about it again - I said no the last time it asked.

Also, I found that I have the Google Compute stuff on the hard drive, although I've no idea if it was put there with the Toolbar installation even when I'd declined to join the program - I don't know how long it's been there.

claus. I remember being offered the option of joining the program from way back, but I declined. Google Compute suddenly started to access the Internet within the last week. I haven't even looked at the Options in that period of time. It became turned on without my knowledge or consent and I wonder how many other people's computers are being used by Google without their knowledge or consent.

Also, claus, I am alone here, so nobody uses the computer but me. If it had been turned on by someone on this computer, it must have been me - which it wasn't.

I realize that it could have been a Google bug rather than intentional, but when a company uses my computer without my permission or knowledge it makes me very angry. Whether it was turned on intentionally or not, I can't imagine that I'm the only that it's happened to. I've emailed Google about it, and I'm waiting for a response.

BigDave

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Msg#: 22339 posted 2:19 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Try using Mozilla and googlebar instead. The only thing I ever use IE for anymore is to make sure that my pages are still compatable, and to check my pagerank every few months.

That way, they will only get to "steal" your cycles for a few minutes a month.

BTW, I just checked and Google Compute is still off on my toolbar. And my PR is still about the same as it was in December.

jazzx

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Msg#: 22339 posted 5:37 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

it seems that I don't have it in my toolbar at all and believe it came with versions later than 2.0.107 .

from my firewall logs i can tell that as for my version the toolbar never made an attemt to connect to the internet to do any toolbar updates. no incoming traffic as well...

jazzx

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Msg#: 22339 posted 5:41 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

philc
[jazzx. I think I must have the advanced features because under the More tab of the Option there is a Web Buttons heading, under which is listed the Google Compute Client button.]

to have the advanced features enabled does only mean that you allow your browser to send your search behaviour to google >>click statistics, etc.

PhilC

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Msg#: 22339 posted 12:28 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't allow that either, jazzx. Acquiring PR values and searching is all that I allow.

jazzx

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Msg#: 22339 posted 6:33 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

philc
[I don't allow that either, jazzx. Acquiring PR values and searching is all that I allow.]

exactly - that's the point. you did agree to it when you installed the toolbar and were asked if you want to be able to use the advanced feautures.
if you wouldn have agreed to it - you wouldn't be able havin' the pagerank feature in use.
hope this helps

Chndru

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Msg#: 22339 posted 6:58 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Acquiring PR values

PR and compute has nothing to do with each other. I have been using compute for so long in several machines, and i haven't see it run w/o you downloading and enabling it.

jazzx

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Msg#: 22339 posted 7:20 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Chndru

i agree absolutely.
in my last post i was just refering to the overall action of the toolbar and its requirements.

kaled

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Msg#: 22339 posted 7:52 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Also, I found that I have the Google Compute stuff on the hard drive, although I've no idea if it was put there with the Toolbar installation even when I'd declined to join the program - I don't know how long it's been there.

To determine the installation date of a program, right click one of its files and choose properties. The creation date of the file should be the date the program was installed. You can also check the creation date of directories.

Kaled.

BlueSky

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Msg#: 22339 posted 8:20 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Google is using my computer to run their programs without my knowledge or agreement - and I'm mad!

If you let it connect to the net without giving it much thought like you said, most likely you also accepted. You may not have realized you accepted at the time and thought you declined. A lot of people don't pay attention to wording and hit the wrong button.

Chndru

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Msg#: 22339 posted 8:24 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>you also accepted.

Nope. It is not currently bundled with Google Toolbar. To get Compute, you HAVE to go and download it from Google Labs.

PhilC

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Msg#: 22339 posted 12:00 am on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

I certainly declined Compute a long time ago when I installed the Toolbar. It was an option on the form, and I declined it. I remember that very well. The fact that I have the Toolbar running, with the PR and search box doesn't mean that Compute should run.

The Compute files were installed in the 25th November last year. I've had the Toolbar a lot longer than that, and I don't recall doing anything that would install Compute last Novemeber. But it hasn't been running since last November. It only started to try and access the Internet a little less than a week ago, and I definitely didn't do anything with the Toolbar to turn it on, or fill in any Google forms. It's been turned on very recently without my knowing. The button hasn't even been displayed. Maybe it's also been turned on on a lot of people's machine without them knowing.

kaled

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Msg#: 22339 posted 12:04 am on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

A lot of people don't pay attention to wording and hit the wrong button.

Very true. It is also true that some questions are phrased so badly you have to take pot-luck when pressing a button even after carefully reading the question several times. On one online account, I have to press continue when I want to log off.

Kaled.

g1smd

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Msg#: 22339 posted 12:31 am on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

"If you do not wish to be removed from our mailing list, then please do not tick the box" ..... is a classic that I saw a few years ago.

Chndru

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Msg#: 22339 posted 6:26 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

LOL.
good one, g1smd.

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