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Is this a sign that I have a problem
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 5:09 pm on Feb 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have a 2nd site that's been up a year now. It has about 30 links in alltheweb pointing to it. At least 2 of those are pr5 with a handful of pr4 and lower. Those pr5 and pr4 links also link to my other site and have shown up at least for 3 months in backlinks on google. About 130 page site, fully indexed but every page white bar and every page except the index page is a supplemental result. Any ideas would be helpful...



 6:40 pm on Feb 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

Looks like a problem to me.


 9:49 am on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Any idea what could cause that. No cross linking and I checked before i bought the domain and there were no links to it. It is not even optimised much as I have'nt spent much time on it.


 11:47 am on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Has this site ever had PageRank?

Also, make sure there's nothing blocking Googlebot like robots.txt.

creative craig

 11:53 am on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

About 130 page site, fully indexed but every page white bar and every page except the index page is a supplemental result.

Are the pages taken from a database, are they cached in Google. Do you use Javascript links in any way. These can stop the passing of PR or the pages getting indexed.



 1:31 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am in the same situation. I have a site that has several pr4 and pr5 links to it that do not show up. They never have. Every page is pr0. The site is static html and googlebot seems to crawl the pages fine, just not as often as I would like. The domain was not previously owned that I could tell.

I just renewed the domain earlier this month so it has been more than a year.


 2:53 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've had the exact same problem with one of my sites. After nine months of waiting for the backlinks to be counted, I bought a new domain name seperating the two words in it with a '-' and within two weeks I had backlinks showing. I'm now going to transfer the contents from www.mykeyword1mykeyword2.com to www.mykeyword1-mykeyword2.com so long as the pagerank goes up too. The new site seems to rank well in the serps so far, but the pr still shows at 0.

Its a real pain having to transfer the domain though. I'd love to know why google feels it necessary to ignore certain sites' backlinks. Could it be some type of penalty? I've been monitoring a competitors site and whats happened with it suggests that it could be a penalty. This site was originally informational only about certain products. Once it got to PR5 they filled it with affiliate links to just one shopping site for those products. A few weeks later all its back links were gone and its PR is dropping. I know their backlinks are still active, but google seems to have chosen to no longer register them. This suggests to me that they are being penalised for being an affiliate farm.


 3:06 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

there's too many factors in the backlink game to shove it all of on one.

maybe they lost all their backlinks because they were blog spamming? who knows.


 3:06 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

off* i mean


 3:35 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

It's possible the site's prior owner was banned and the domain is still banned.

I have only had two sites that could never get could PageRank. I ended up dumping them both figuring they were banned.


 5:15 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)


I have a similar problem which I put down to a duplicate problem. Both www and non-www versions of the domain resolve to exactly the same site with a 200 response.

I know that I have some backlinks that should show but none do. The site was dropped like a stone at Austin.

I've changed all of my internal URLs to absolute so that it is only the index page which is a dupe. It is now at #460 in SERPs. I have no option to install .htaccess etc and think that all I can now do is to move to a new server without this problem.

Best wishes



 5:47 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)


One of my site was with 5/10 PR and then I updated my site using Goolge add url more then I should (bad boy) and it's now in "supplemental results" with no 0/10 PR.

I believe "supplemental results" are other sites that are not in the 3 billion main index.


 5:59 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

You will not be penalised for submitting your URL too often. Here's what Google says on its information for webmasters page ...

"Please visit our "Add URL" page to input your URLs. You can submit your site as often as you like, but multiple submissions will not improve the likelihood of your site being added or accelerate the process. We do not penalize sites for 'over-submitting'. If you choose to submit your site, only the top-level domain is necessary, as the spiders will follow your internal links to all the rest of the pages."

Sid, I know that you contacted Google about this problem. I also know that GoogleGuy suggested that we contact them with a keyword in the subject line and that he would get something done about. Did you get any response when you did so? (I didn't.)


 6:25 pm on Feb 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

To answer a few qestions. The site has never had pagerank. Always been a zero. Pages are not from a database. All hand made.
All pages are cached and no problem with the robots.txt. All the linking straight html

Just how long is it worth waiting?

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