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Google only shows 8 links to us, but we have lots more
I don't undersyand why Google doesn't show all links to our web site

 7:09 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi, I'm new to this forum and wonder if someone can help please.

Am I correct in thinking the number of high quality links e have to our web site improves our PR with Google? I've worked hard to generate god quality links, but when I've just checked Google to se how many links we have to our site it is only showing 8! I know that e have many more than 8 sites linking to us.

Is there a reason Google doesnt show them all, and am I correct in thinking this is why we have a relatively low PR of 4/10 via the Google Toolbar?

Our site used to be much better ranked for popular keywords, even the very generic ones and now suddenly our homepage to be anymore - I've looked at most other things and am beginning to think that PR must be why its currently being rated so low. But I thought I had that reasonably well covered with some good high quality links, but Google seems to think otherwise.

Any suggestions please Im a bit lost?

Any help/advice gratefully received :)

Im not sure if anyone would mind taking a look at my homepage, and I didnt ant to mention it here, so Ive included it in my profile. All help and advice appreciated!



 7:48 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

I believe that Google will only show back links for sites with PR of 4 or better. What PR do some of the non showing sites have?


 9:06 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks ImVickieB.
Most of the sites that link to us have high PR - 7 or 8. It's why we wantd to link with them:)

They're just not showing as links to us though. One particularly well-liked and highly ranked site actually has individual links to all 800+ products on our database, so I would have thought that would realy have helpd our ranking and position.

Seems not :(

Any ideas anyone?


 9:51 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

When were the links setup? A refresh for Back Links and PR is expected soon and when that happends, you can expect a very good update for yourself.


 2:46 am on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Most of the sites that link to us have high PR - 7 or 8.

The sites have PR7 or 8? Are the PAGES you are linked from 7s and 8s? If so, how many links out do these pages have? Are the links straight html, databse links like php, or contained in JS?

If you have plain html links from PR7 / 8 pages which don't have a lot of links, god bless you and it is just a matter of time. But your PR should probably have gone up already. Then again, you don't mention times involved so it is probably just a matter of time.


 12:34 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for info... you can see I'm obviously new to the whole thing :)

I selected the sites to link to us carefully as they had high search engine placements and were very well-ranked. But I didn't take into account that the actual page they link to us from might be a lower rank than their homepage - will this affect why G doesn't list them as linking to us?

The individual links that one linking site in particular has to individual products on our site are, thinking about it, probably database links - is this why they don't show up on G when I query link?

The main reason I was asking these questions is that I can't understand why G has significantly reduced our search position on certain keywords. We used to be listed anywhere between position 3 and 5 on good, albeit fairly broad, keywords, now we're way, way back.

Was just trying to figure if it was something to do with number of sites linking to us as I've tried looking at everything else on our homepage and can't figue out what else we were doing and aren't now to lose position so badly.

I know that there were big changes to G in November and since, but everyone else that was placed around us before is, in the main, still their. But we're not :( Can't figure it out as e have a site with good content and is highly ranked for other keywords On G.

Anyone got any ideas, or even fancy taking a look at my site for me - stuck at the moment and can't think how we can get our places back. Any ideas/help gratefully received! Thanks.


 4:30 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)


A refresh for Back Links and PR is expected soon

This is something I am very interested in as I also have some good backlinks waiting to be credited. Is this just an opinion? Or is it based on something concrete?

Here's hoping your right! :)



 4:56 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

the actual page they link to us from might be a lower rank than their homepage - will this affect why G doesn't list them as linking to us?

Google only counts the PR of the actual page where the link is. If the page is less than PR4, Google will not show the link in your backlinks.

probably database links - is this why they don't show up on G when I query link?

The essential point is Google has to be able follow the link. Check out what sort of link they are using, and then there are lots of threads here which may help.

I can't understand why G has significantly reduced our search position on certain keywords.

This may be a result of a change in the Google algorithm, especially as you say "broad terms". If so, what to do about it is a contentious issue. There are hundreds of recent posts from people who have suffered from this.

Took a look at your site. The 8 backlinks include 3 at PR5 and 5 at PR4. I would have guessed that this was worth more than a PR4 to you, so although the links are showing, possibly your PR has not yet been updated.

(Any chance of a free sample? A Haut-Medoc would do nicely! :))



 5:45 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks Harry, much appreciated. Most definitely first and foremost a wine merchant (sorry, can't bring myself to call wine a widget!) and not an IT expert, although learning fast by necessity. Id pour you a glass of red, but until some great IT person figures out how to get liquid and electronics to get on together best not pour it down the cable modem to you J

Really appreciate you looking at my site and giving advice. The site that is linking to us with each of our products having its own individual link is a portal and brings good business, but I was hoping for more from the theoretically high quality links it brought to the party too. Every one is definitely a direct link from the product listing on their site to that same product on ours, so I'm not sure why they don't show up.

In fact, we are also listed in their supplier index with a standard HTML link and that equally doesn't show up.

Weve had the links for about a year now, so I'd have thought they would have shown by now. But maybe not? Maybe there is something odd in how they link or something I don't know about.

Time for a glass of that Haut-Mdoc I think - cheers! :)


 7:57 pm on Feb 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

@ wine_guru

If it's any consolation, my own website has, in the last couple of weeks, dropped from pr5 to pr3.

We had 70% of our pages in the top 10 Google search results - now they are almost all outside the top 100!

A quick check of backlinks via Marketleap's tool shows that Google now sees NO links to our site, even though we have a couple of dozen that are from solid pr4 and pr5 pages (Google USED to show these links - they have disappeared over the last two weeks).

There have been virtually no changes to the site that would have accounted for this - only the addition of a little more content.

I've been hanging on, with crossed fingers, hoping that my backlinks will be "found" by Google again!


ps - I'm glad it's not just me!

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