homepage Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.204.141.129
register, free tools, login, search, pro membership, help, library, announcements, recent posts, open posts,
Become a Pro Member

Visit PubCon.com
Home / Forums Index / Google / Google News Archive
Forum Library, Charter, Moderator: open

Google News Archive Forum

This 105 message thread spans 4 pages: 105 ( [1] 2 3 4 > >     
Post Austin SERPS Starting to Improve
Keep turning the crank back google
customdy




msg:211403
 1:54 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

In the last few hours I have noticed a moderate improvement in keywords that were heavily filtered in Florida and Austin. One of my competitors that domain name is keyword1_keyword2 is now back in top 10, he was gone in both Florida and Austin, doesn't look like he made any changes.

We are now back to page #2 or #3 on most 2 word searches, we have reduced keyword density but I think it is more of a tweek that Google is doing.

Keep in coming Google.

 

jcoronella




msg:211404
 4:20 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Want a new SERP? F-5. Looks to me there are 3 rotating at the moment. Easier to see on AOL as they aren't limiting users to one set.

allanp73




msg:211405
 4:23 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

The changes you are seeing due to the rotation of the serps. I think Google has increased the number of terms that it applies its new filtering algo.

TrafficL




msg:211406
 8:25 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is very interesting. Is anyone else seeing any of their old ranks coming back? It appears that Google is dancing again.

Chelsea




msg:211407
 8:38 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Very odd that all Adwords have disappeared from Google.co.uk this morning - something is afoot.

merlin30




msg:211408
 8:55 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

And the .co.uk is now looking more like its European brethren as well.

Tiebreaker




msg:211409
 9:24 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Haven't analysed my rankings on specific key phrases - I have too many to keep track - but my traffic is creeping back up, so rankings seem to be improving :-)

Teshka




msg:211410
 9:26 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

My one site that got hit is worse than it was last time I checked :P You got my hopes up for a moment...

Kennyh




msg:211411
 9:50 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

merlin - I think that's because the European results have been brought into line with .com and .co.uk rather than .co.uk moving to euro reults. Shame.

steveb




msg:211412
 9:54 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Adwords still on co.uk here.

helenp




msg:211413
 9:57 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I was filtered out searching for english keywords in google.es, but I am back to first page.
They surtainley changed

Chelsea




msg:211414
 10:08 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ref: No Adwords at all on .co.uk,: the IP I'm getting appears to be 66.102.11.104. Which appears to be Google English, not Google UK - does anyone get this? Also getting 216.239.39.104 when www.g*ogle.co.uk is pinged. But again, when this IP is entered into the command bar, up comes Google English. Please advise if I'm being dim here :)

Hissingsid




msg:211415
 10:15 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ref: No Adwords at all on .co.uk, the IP I'm getting appears to be 66.102.11.104

I'm seeing Adwords on that at 10:11am UK. I'm not sure that IP is .co.uk it has "English" under the Google logo which we don't normally see on .co.uk.

I can only see two sets of SERPs. Occasionally I see my page pop in at #7 for my main term, then I try again and its at #96.

The SERPs at AOL.co.uk sometimes look better (not including my site but better) then I repeat the search and crap rises to the top again.

Best wishes

Sid

WebmasterFisherman




msg:211416
 10:16 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

My results have deteriorated though. Only yesterday I was on top for a very competitive technology keyword on all european SEs apart from co.uk - now I nowhere in the first 100.

Top SERPS are now just as in google.com and are inundated with "authority" sites that might have just 1-2 mentioning of the keyword(s) in the content or anchors.

"Authority-sites-sqeezing-the-life-out-of-smaller-highly-relevant-sites" approach is spreading...

[edited by: WebmasterFisherman at 10:21 am (utc) on Feb. 5, 2004]

Chelsea




msg:211417
 10:18 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Odd though Sssid, 66.102.11.104 is the IP I get when I ping .co.uk, but you're absolutely right that it brings up Google English, not Google UK. Odd.

soapystar




msg:211418
 10:22 am on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

more seach results within results.....im seeing something new now....a site where not only are the results all over the place but each search is made into a subdomain so results pagse from this search engine is keyword1-keyword2.thisdomain.com/keyword1-keyword2.htm ...dear old google has 92,000 of ts pages which shows above real content sites....yep...all the spam is gone...!

not!

Chelsea




msg:211419
 12:29 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Does anyone know what 'Google English' is? (Obviously it is Google results in English ;) ) But how long has it been around - and how does it relate to Google.co.uk which seems to be temporarily mirroring it on certain IPs?

And does this explain why:

Search pages within (country)

hasn't been working properly?

How long has Google been diverting UK searches to English language searches? Have searches in other countries been affected by this diversion from a geographical search to a much wider language search?

I'm in danger of going off topic, but it certainly relates to SERPs quality. Maybe a new thread? Thanks

[edited by: Chelsea at 12:52 pm (utc) on Feb. 5, 2004]

Hissingsid




msg:211420
 12:33 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

more seach results within results.....im seeing something new now....a site where not only are the results all over the place but each search is made into a subdomain so results pagse from this search engine is keyword1-keyword2.thisdomain.com/keyword1-keyword2.htm ...dear old google has 92,000 of ts pages which shows above real content sites....yep...all the spam is gone...!

It makes you wonder why they bothered. No matter what the algo someone somewhere will find a way to Spam it. With 3.4 billion pages there must ahve been amny who suddenly found themselves on top, analysed why and then replicated what they had done.

I've noticed that many, not all domains that are like this blue-widget-keeping.com have disappeared from SERPs but subdomains like this bluewidgetkeeping.blob.com seem to be doing well in some SERPs.

This new algo is either completely crap and they are committed to it for some strategic reason or it is full of bugs and they are desperately trying to debug it. If the later is the case it must be a complete nightmare because they clearly changed a few things (probably in a vain attempt to confuse us) and they are probably having as much difficulty trying to figure out the logic of the resultant SERPs as we are. Thats why they want us to point to bad SERPs it helps them to find the needle in the haystack.

The nice thing about the second possibility is that we can all feel a certain ammount of satisfaction that the guy responsible for all of this is probably having as many sleepless nights as webmasters whose sites were dropped have.

Best wishes

Sid

customdy




msg:211421
 12:53 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Back to #7 spot on our #3 keyword phrase with Feb 02 fresh tags. - wwww- (U.S.)

bignet




msg:211422
 2:02 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Goolge English was only accessible through ip address imo.

Try
ht*p://216.239.37.99

oogle UK is uk now

Chelsea




msg:211423
 2:19 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Bignet, are you saying that 'Google English' hasn't ever been available to general surfers - (except through an IP address?)

I've found 3 IP addresses by pinging www.google.co.uk that actually return Google English.

I'm just wondering if Google is turning off geographical searches, and making them language searches - this could be bad news for folks in the English speaking world trying to target their own country only.

(The ramifications, of course, could extend into many other regions / languages. So apologies for my anglocentric approach, I'm merely speaking about the particular UK / USA / Australia / Canada case I understand.)

Froogle, of course, is not capable of rolling out in the UK. But if UK searches are dispensed with, and turned into 'English' searches it will then be available. Hard to see, though, a UK surfer getting a bargain by buying from across the Atlantic - and vice versa.

pavlin




msg:211424
 3:42 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just did a search for Keyword1 keyword2 (keyword2 is a counry name). The first 30 results were to ODP implementations and in the first 60 results - 50 were to those kind of sites....
I guess G is in love with DMOZ...

idoc




msg:211425
 5:44 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

"I guess G is in love with DMOZ..."

I think it is more they like the structure of the site. It appears to favor theme and link text above content itself...at least for now.

Anyone know a good open source directory building script that uses odp or other rdf data? Sticky me please if it is convenient.

Chelsea




msg:211426
 5:55 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Is it sensible for a search engine to simply serve up the results of a directory? - you might as well just use the directory. Surely this can't be by design :)

pavlin




msg:211427
 6:12 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I sent the keywords to webmaster [at] g , but I think they are aware of the fact, that the SERP's quality is hitting the bottom.

thumpcyc




msg:211428
 6:37 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

"Post Austin SERPS Starting To Improve"

I Don't Think So, At least Not in the money keywords and keyword combinations I watch. (If there are no, or very few paid ads, the serps look to be almost unaffected). From my point of view, like Florida, just more more keywords added to the list.

More than ever, there are more directories, sites with only advertizing and more search results, affiliates with duplicated or no content. All in top placement, and the sites that were, and are still revelant, (including mine) are gone.

Better grab back ahold of that knob and crank it quite a bit more G.

Thumpcyc

bull




msg:211429
 7:39 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

german serps are back to pre-austin level. more affiliate sites with boilerplate content. no hilltop implementation any more?

bignet




msg:211430
 7:44 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)


English was and still is listed under Googe language tools but the logo is just goolge without english

the new logo taht have english may be as recent as Austin but not sure. others can confirm

as long as you still see pages from the UK or Canada radio button on front page, geo results will still be served

MyWifeSays




msg:211431
 8:00 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm stunned. I've just spotted that one of my pages appears 4 times in the serps for a single phrase.

Just once at the top would have been fine.

eraldemukian




msg:211432
 8:13 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

the few serps that I know about appear to be back to preAustin in their order, even though the content is fresh. New data in older order? Or an order that has more in common with preAustin than with Austin.

This 105 message thread spans 4 pages: 105 ( [1] 2 3 4 > >
Global Options:
 top home search open messages active posts  
 

Home / Forums Index / Google / Google News Archive
rss feed

All trademarks and copyrights held by respective owners. Member comments are owned by the poster.
Home ¦ Free Tools ¦ Terms of Service ¦ Privacy Policy ¦ Report Problem ¦ About ¦ Library ¦ Newsletter
WebmasterWorld is a Developer Shed Community owned by Jim Boykin.
© Webmaster World 1996-2014 all rights reserved