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Fastest way to increase Google's position
Fast and easy way.
Ru_Di

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 6:40 pm on Jan 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've made 3 sites - site1, site2, site3 with same content and different designe. All of this sites have pages like /blue-widgets/, /red-widgets/, etc.
I've made links "Blue Widgets" from site1.com/blue-widgets/ to site2.com/blue-widgets/ and to site3.com/blue-widgets/;
Also I've placed same links at site2.com/blue-widgets/ and
site3.com/blue-widgets/. What I have now?
I have top 3 positions on keyword phrase "Blue Widgets" after Google's Florida update!

 

closed

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 12:33 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

It's probably not a very competitive keyword phrase.

DVDBurning

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 1:49 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

3 sites with identical content? This sounds like a fast way to a PR 0. As soon as any one of your competitors for this search phrase notices your duplicate content and cross-linking strategy, they will report you to Google, and you will be out of the index.

I suggest you make money the old fashioned way... earn it. Instead of duplicating the same content onto multiple sites, spend the time developing more unique content about your widgets, and you will do much better than trying to take a short-cut.

dasboot



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 1:59 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've made 3 sites - site1, site2, site3 with same content and different designe.

Well done! You clearly have a great respect for the Internet and those who use it.

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[edited by: DaveAtIFG at 3:38 am (utc) on Jan. 5, 2004]
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jimpoo

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 4:13 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

The faster you get Google's position, the faster you are going to be off the SERPs.

antrat



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 4:46 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why do the mods allow this to be posted? It's a very likley way to be dropped from Google completely. Come on guys, this type of topic is bad news.

Gambit

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 7:15 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I think we need to see stuff like this posted.

We need to know the things that are generally frowned upon by Google and the rest of the webmaster community.

yintercept

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 7:55 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am not too good at this game...so my tact is to make sites called red-wedgit, blue-wedgit and green-wedgit hoping to get that little bit of traffic from people who don't know how to spell widget.

I know it's not much,
but its the best I can do.
My gift is my web spam
and this SEO is for you...

elmarpanzenberger

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 9:09 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Guys,

just because we know that this method works but shouldn't be done, this doesn't mean that even Ru_Di did know about.

I find his posting OK, now he knows and even others might take knowledge of it. Things often seem clear to someone of us but obviously are not to others.

BTW Happy new year

Ru_Di

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 9:55 am on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

to closed:
keyword phrase have about 1,290,000 results, 3-4 adwords sponsored links and froogle results.

I have similar nice SERPs for most of my keywords (red widgets, etc.)

plasma

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 12:15 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

they will report you to Google, and you will be out of the index.

ROTFLMAO

dasboot



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 12:27 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Why do the mods allow this to be posted?

Quite.

Crisco



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 12:34 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

YES - ROFL

Unfortunately this technique DOES work very well – and reporting sites that employ this methodology will do no good!

I reported sites in the past for excessive cross-linking (linking schemes intended to increase ranking) and duplicate content – something that’s discouraged in the guidelines, well they’re still ranking well today!

I’ve seen it on half a dozen related sites - they had placed a crosslink to each of 6 sites on every single page of each of the 6 sites. They appeared over night from no where in #1 position for several related competitive terms. They built up their PR as high as 8 on a several of the sites and then removed all the cross-linking!

Classic bait and switch – and though they have suffered a bit as their PR dropped to sixes and sevens, they still hold the ranking positions!

Mike12345

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 1:03 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ru_Di

There is no quick way the best thing for you to do, is take a fresh look at those sites of yours and think about how you can make each one unique and valuable to the user. IF you cant then get rid of them, then focus on just one. For useful advice on effective SEO methods try here:

[webmasterworld.com...]

Everyone else:

Is it not a better idea to spend your time advising Ru_Di on how to make better progress rather than to shun and make negative comments about his/hers posting technique and the way that person goes about their business?

dasboot



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 1:10 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Now who's making the negative comments? Much confused.

caryl

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 1:58 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have seen this tactic rewarded handsomely by Google as well. When many are still struggling to come back from nowhere, since Florida, these sites seem to be florishing.

Google creates it's own problems. Many good people trying to operate within Gs guidelines have suffered and are still suffering.

How long before some of these people throw up their hands in frustration and decide to "follow the money".

If the OP enjoys the positions they mentioned, then I'm sure they have a much better chance of doing business than the "white hats" in Google limbo.

It is a hard sell to convince someone to throw down your evil ways (that are making you money) and come join us on higher moral ground.

If Google punishes them, then they will be where I am now, NOWHERE.

Spica

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 3:04 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>>It's a very likley way to be dropped from Google completely<<<<

IMO, it is less likely nowadays than if you just have one honest, small targeted site. Just look at how the SERPs are dominated by those who keep creating new domains and subdomains, all cross-linked and with the same c*ap on each one. It has always been true, but is much more obvious now that most of the unique, original, well-designed, user-friendly small web sites have disappeared from the SERPs after the Florida update. It's a fact, and, unless Google changes its algo very soon, there will be more and more lousy sites on the web.

>>>Google creates it's own problems. Many good people trying to operate within Gs guidelines have suffered and are still suffering.
How long before some of these people throw up their hands in frustration and decide to "follow the money". <<<

Very well said, and, unfortunately, so very true.

patoruzu

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 3:05 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

“I've made 3 sites - site1, site2, site3 with same content and different design.”

This unethical technique is not sophisticated, so it probably won’t work, at least in the medium term. More worrying is the fact that you could write three different writings changing just the way of telling things (style, order of the sentences, other words), but mantaining the keywords. A skilled writer could do that easily. So you wouldn’t have “the same content” anymore. But it would be still tricky. How could Google penalize it?

redzone

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 3:13 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Short term solutions/strategies, are usually "short lived".. Enough said..

DVDBurning

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 4:13 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree... a focus on short term strategies means a lack of focus on good, unique content. Interesting content organized in a useable way (rather than stuffed with keywords) attracts repeat visitors, and encourages others to link to your site. While search engine bots may be fooled, real humans can easily tell the contenders from the pretenders.

customdy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 4:53 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

It sucks that the current Google SERPs rewards this kind of strategy when honest clean, good quality sites suffer.
We went from #3 to page 18, are site is clean, good quality, good links and very relavent to the keword term that it is being "filtered" for. So now we spend
$50 a day on adwords. I can see why some white hats will go to being black hats.

wanna_learn

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 5:44 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ro_di
Bravo! , you atleast admitted that using lousy techniques, you could beat SERP!

SERP are surely full or such crap and were always!
its a different issue that on top postions sometimes crap is 70% sometimes 30% and also vary from KW to KW.

Also, if your trick would be a short liven of long driven would depnd upon how soon google catch this?
FORGET competitor complaining it and google taking action!
(irony)

Anyway, still the better idea is to have multiple sites focussing different products ( widgets :-) ), and to cross-link them naturally. {though google dun know the meaning of natural cross linking at all}

caryl

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20963 posted 6:50 pm on Jan 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

DVDBurning,
While search engine bots may be fooled, real humans can easily tell the contenders from the pretenders.

You are absolutely right!

Now, if we can only figure a way to get the "Contenders" back where real people can actually find them.

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