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Number of inbound higher PR links needed

 9:35 am on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hey everyone,

Just wondering..
My site is PR4 and all of my subpages are still PR3.

I got a link from a very content related PR5 site on a great page with very few other links to mine. It's been there for about a month and it doesn't show up in Google's backlinks to my site yet - that's ok I know Google takes time.. But my question is.. Is one strong link from a PR5 site enough to make me a PR5 just like that. Or is there any rule of thumb like "if you get linked to from PR5 your PR will be PR4 if the link is on a clean page with low outgoing links etc.."? I'm just wondering, when Google realises about this backlink is it enough to increase my PR?

Thanks a lot.

And just an observation I had recently for the record.. I renamed a heap of my subpages to confirm to keyword phrased filenames with dashes in between then. Initially they all showed PR0 for about 2 weeks, then they jumped to PR2, then a month later they are all now back to PR3. So as easy as that. I know my PR isn't very high yet, but its taken me a good while to get my home page to PR4. REally working hard on more content and incoming links from big PR sites now to try and get to PR5.



 3:33 pm on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi cisco and welcome!

Is one strong link from a PR5 site enough to make me a PR5 just like that.

One link from a PR5 page can be enough to get a PR5 page. However, it depends on
- the number of links on that page
- the exact PR of the PR5 page, i.e. is it a high PR5 (close to PR6) or a low PR5
- the current PR of your main page, i.e. is it a high or a low PR4

Therefore, there no definitive answer exists. By the way, (currently) it dosn't play a role for PR if the page linking to you is content related or not.


 12:15 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmm ok thanks for your help.

I think its a high PR page because every one of it sub pages are all PR5.

There are 5 other outgoing links to other web sites apart from mine on that page. Traffic wise its a great spot its called "Our Favourites", like a links thing and I am at the top. I'm just fearing how often they will update this page and my link might move, but its been there for 2 months so far.

I think my page is low PR4. All my subpages are PR3 and I've only been PR4 on the home page for 2 months or so.

Patrick Taylor

 12:28 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi cisco...

I renamed a heap of my subpages to conform to keyword phrased filenames with dashes in between.

I don't believe this would have any influence on PR, which is determined only by your links.


 12:36 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yeah I only did it to make the titles more closely matching to my targeted search keywords etc. I was just trying to illustrate that even after I gave all my old pages completely new names, the got the same PR they had with their old names within only 2 or so months. Noone has really linked to the new filenames yet either. Mainly from my PR4 homepage linking directly to the new filenames I would think.


 1:23 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)


It's not good to be depending on just one link anyway.

Have you been writing to related sites letting them know about your site? Be sure you have it really looking good first. Ask them if they would like to trade links.

Even tho Google may not be paying attention to whether they are related or not in the future it may. Plus more people will visit you through the other site if the topic is related.


 1:36 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yeah I agree totally.

Yeah I've been doing that for ages, but really in my topic area I guess its been trickier than I expected to get good links from related PR5 and above sites. Most of my inbound links come from 3s and 4s at present. So this first PR5 inbound link is really just the first of my high PR inbound links, if you call 5 high, well respectable anyway :)

I'm pretty happy with the site at present, but yeah need to spend more time exchanging links and adding even more content. I have a very big saturation on Google already, lots and lots of content pages, and my forums always show up in google too which is handy. All the users add related information and my site ranks higher because of it. Forums are useful if it fits in with your site image etc..


 1:48 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

If you want to speed up the process of building good links, go to google and enter "link:www.your*highranking*competitor.com/"
This will bring up only pr4+ pages where you may be able to add your site. It got me a lot of pr5 & pr6 links.


 3:29 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

My page usually has PR 2
Last month I got link from page which has PR 5 (and 10 outbound links on it).
This month my PR is 4.
I did not find any other new links pointing to my page.
I hope this helps a bit.


 4:41 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

I got a link from a very content related PR5 site on a great page with very few other links to mine.

Are you just considering the links off the site, or all the links, including internal links?

On most reasonably sized sites, it is quite normal to have 15+ internal navigation links on every page. All those links count when the PR is divided up and spread around, not just the outbound links.


 7:43 am on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hmm ok cool, thanks a lot for the thoughts and tips guys.

Yeah I was excluding internal nav links, so there would be heaps more links then including those :(


 1:07 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

My personal rule of thumb: A link from a PR(X ) makes you a PR(X-1).

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