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jpweb




msg:145280
 4:12 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi,
I have a website which was consistently in the top 3 for a year, then all of the sudden it dropped like a rock in september. At first I thought maybe google had not indexed me but I have realized that i have been penalized. What should I do to wipe the slate cleen for the site? Should I remove the all the links in my link directory? How long should it take to get over the PR 0?
Thanks for the help.

 

DVDBurning




msg:145281
 6:41 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Be sure you don't link to a "bad neighborhood"... a site that has violated Google's terms of service, like a link-farm. Check Google's Terms of Service for other possible problems, then write to Google to request reinstatement.

In the meantime, add lots of good content to your site.

Otherwise, you'll have to just move on to a new domain.

lazyz




msg:145282
 2:18 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

jpweb -

How do you know that you've been penalized? Do you know that you were doing something against Google's TOS? Sometimes it is tricky and you think you've been penalized when it might be a simple back-link or server-side problem. How many back-links did you have to your site in September?

(If you are convinced, you are PR0 because of a penality, not to make you feel bad but recovering from PR0 is sometimes impossible. Depends on what you did wrong.)

SirFroggZ




msg:145283
 3:36 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is your pr bar greyed out or just all white?

jpweb




msg:145284
 5:51 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

In response to some of your questions, before the update I had around 200 backlinks. In August I switched to a new type of link directory which was more automated. It produces static pages so I don't know why it would cause problems. My PR is totally white. I have another site which also uses the same link directory I switched to on my main site. This site is totally non-related, and there is no crosslinking. It still has PR. I am thinking it is probally someone I linked to. Thanks for the help.

jpweb




msg:145285
 5:57 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

By the way the site that has been PR0'ed is not the one in my profile with my e-mail address.

jimbeetle




msg:145286
 6:11 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

a new type of link directory which was more automated

Google has big problems with automated link directories, especially if the "add your link" function is automated. Depending on your implementation this is the first thing you might want to take a look at.

I do realize you said your other site with the same directory software was not affected, Google doesn't always catch everything and everyone at the same time.

rogerd




msg:145287
 6:45 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'd also lean toward the automated link directory theory. Going back to the oft-mentioned "themeindex" penalty, Google has sought out automated directories as possible sources of abuse. One or two bad links shouldn't hurt you, unless they are to notorious link farms in which you are listed (the link on your site is confirmation that you are an active participant rather than an unwitting sabotage victim.)

lazyz




msg:145288
 8:08 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes... a penalty...

Coming back from PR0... Almost no chance...

I've been there, done that, bought a new domain and started over again after I learned my lesson.

percentages




msg:145289
 8:19 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Coming back from PR0... Almost no chance...

Not true, every chance....but it takes a while.

Put the PR0 site on the back burner, it probably does good in Inktomi and ATW anyway?

Get a new domain for Google, change the site content a tad, get the backlinks again and let the puppy fly.

10 to 15 months from now the old PR0'ed site will reappear and then you will have two good Google performers and probably two good Inktomi performers.

At which time everyone will call you a spammer....live with that;)

jpweb




msg:145290
 3:52 am on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

On my site it says "add a listing." I have another site which I started around the same time the other went down. It uses the same type of link directory with automated "add a listing." So I am not sure this is the problem.

jimbeetle




msg:145291
 6:39 pm on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

On my site it says "add a listing." I have another site which I started around the same time the other went down. It uses the same type of link directory with automated "add a listing." So I am not sure this is the problem.

Emphasis added for emphasis

I'll simply repeat it, this time with emphasis:

"Google has big problems with automated link directories, especially if the "add your link" function is automated. Depending on your implementation this is the first thing you might want to take a look at.

"I do realize you said your other site with the same directory software was not affected, Google doesn't always catch everything and everyone at the same time."

And add:

Whether this is what is causing the penalty now is almost besides the point. This is something known that Google looks at very, very closely. It's only a matter of time until G hits the second site. Please, take care of this now before you dig yourself a bigger hole. If you do clean it up now and it was the cause of the penalty the one site should return to G's good graces in a matter of time and the second one might not get penalized.

thewebboy




msg:145292
 7:30 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have two domain names that I have had for more than one year. When I registered them, I had no idea that they were penalized. But now they still have the penalty and 0 PR despite the fact I have done nothing wrong. What’s going on?

danieljean




msg:145293
 9:56 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

My current project went from PR0 to PR3, then PR4 with barely any new links.

Does removing the "new!" text that is 1 year old help? In any case, I didn't add very much text but cleaned up the interface and tried to make it more visitor friendly, and removed all the useless meta tags.

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