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Is Google Cloaking itself?
Sites show in Google tool but not in results
webnewton




msg:133548
 7:15 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've a group of sites on some highly competitive keywords. While i see my site on top of SERPS in Google toolbar they're not there when i serch them in Google.(mostly they disappear. All datacentres results also show these site. The Stats also show that the visitors frequency on the keywords concerned is also unaltered. Also when i told a friend of mine who lives in a different city to check the ranking they're same as shown by the tool bar.

Is google cloaking?

 

GoogleGuy




msg:133549
 8:35 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

We're not cloaking--promise. :) Have you checked every data center? If one were different, that could explain it.

Excel




msg:133550
 9:23 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

We're not cloaking--promise. :)

I think we should submit a spam report just in case :o)

kaled




msg:133551
 11:31 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

My traffic seems to be stabilising now but after Florida it became enormously erratic despite marginal improvements in SERPS.

Quite literally, traffic from Google could drop by 80% from one day to the next despite similar SERPS from all (known) data centers. Also the percentage of traffic coming from Google.com as opposed to country variants varied subtantially too.

I suspect some experimental geolocation filters were at work but I've failed to prove this on the couple of times I've checked using proxy servers.

My domain is a .net hosted in the UK

Kaled.

PS If two users located in say, the US and UK, get different results from google.com, I would call that cloaking.

Excel




msg:133552
 11:35 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

Very interesting I'm sure, but me thinks you have the wrong topic :o)

plasma




msg:133553
 12:58 pm on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think we should submit a spam report just in case :o)

Please enter the name of the site that is misbehaving:
[form action="/dev/null"]
[input name="site"]
[/form]

GoogleGuy




msg:133554
 9:02 am on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

"If two users located in say, the US and UK, get different results from google.com, I would call that cloaking."

My personal definition of cloaking is "showing different content to a search engine than to a user." So I wouldn't call that cloaking. And I wouldn't call it cloaking to get different search results on different days, either. Sorry to drift off-topic a little, but I think it's a pretty useful distinction to make. But it's late, so maybe people don't consider it that useful; who knows.. :)

webnewton




msg:133555
 11:55 am on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks googleguy i feel relxed :)but;

Though, I've been checking my sites in the google dance tool. Almost 7 datacentere have them in top 5, rest 3 have them in top 15 but when i do the normal search the results totally disappear. However when i told my friend in the other city/ even in the city with different connection they could find my sites on the rank as shown by google dance tool.
And now just two hours back i got myself a dynamic I.P in place of my previous which was Static. Surprisingly i can see my sites now.

what do you say about it?

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