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-in Changes Propogated to all DC's?
Sites showing on -in but not others yet?

 9:01 pm on Dec 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

The original post on this has now been locked, [webmasterworld.com...] Message 23 on 19th Dec from GoogleGuy stated that -in was carrying a new index.

My site now shows in the SERPS on this datacentre, but these changes have not been propogated across the other DC's


1. Has anyone else come back on -in, but not had it propogate to the other DC's yet?
2. Are we likely to see -in results fully filter across all DC's (sorry to aim a question directly at GG - but I don't think anyone else would probably be able to answer that one!)



 1:54 am on Dec 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

1) Yes
2) As of right now, -in is showing on www. It's been fluctuating for.. 2 weeks now? The answer to your second question will always be: "Who Knows?".


 7:47 am on Dec 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I see latest changes on GV! and nowhere else!


 8:38 pm on Dec 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

What I'm seeing here in California is this:
For the last two weeks, the -in results have been at www2 and www3 but not on any other DCs. As of the last few minutes, -in is still unique but no longer showing on 1,2 or 3.


 8:44 pm on Dec 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

As of the last few minutes, -in is still unique but no longer showing on 1,2 or 3.

yup... same here in buckeye land. Kinda stinks too... I was placing about 10 to 15 spots better on those results and was looking forward to them going live.

[edited by: heini at 11:41 pm (utc) on Dec. 29, 2003]
[edit reason] Please stay ontopic, thanks! [/edit]


 11:34 pm on Dec 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

The results I'm seeing on -IN look like all the rest of the datacenters now. And I really thought -IN was the next index. Bummer, since lots of my quality pages were ranking great on -IN and, for the most part, nowhere to be found on the new, er, is it old index.




 11:41 pm on Dec 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes, as of now, -in seems like the other datacenters, it's specialness is gone.


 2:09 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I see the same thing. Too bad. I liked that index.


 2:13 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am seeing the same results for -in, www2, www3 and www over here. My site was gone for the past 2 weeks in -in, www2 and www3 but now shows up for all.


 2:22 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well it may be gone for now but it will be back I'm sure. It may not be exactly the same but it will come back on -in and eventually on all the datacenters.

Google isn't just trying this stuff out for fun... I think they took so much heat for pushing out the Florida update that now they are trying a more civilized method of trying a new algo on one datacenter and see how it looks. Then they make tweeks and try something else on that datacenter. Eventually they will be satisfied and it will be on all the datacenters.

Like it or not, better be prepared... (In my opinion anyways)

Denis at eVR

 2:50 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't think so. I think the last two -in attempts were so bad, and the response so negative, that they won't use this approach again.


 3:15 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I re-read the second -in thread where GG was asking for input on the serps and I didn't see too much up in arms reaction. In fact most people were happy with it.

Either way, Google is not happy with what is live out there on www now and there is no question in my mind that the algo is going to be going the direction of -in eventually. The Florida update was way to strict, but whats out there now on www is way too lax (in Google's eyes)

I think -in was the middle ground and in the next couple of weeks and probably sooner something similar to the -in algo will be live on www.


 11:01 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

What's going on?, -in now has different results again. I hope -in is the new index.


 11:56 pm on Dec 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I noticed that -in had different results also. It looks a lot more like the other data centers.


 2:42 pm on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

I came in this morning and noticed that I have been dropped from www and -in. My rank improved for www2 and www3 to #18 for my money kw1 kw2. Has anyone else seen any changes like this?

I tried an experiment and loaded my anchor txt with the money phrase and it seems I got penalized big time. I am trying to figure out if this is due to my changes or if it is a blip in the SERPS.

I also noticed that my PR dropped from 5 to 4.



 11:21 pm on Jan 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

-in is propagating to other datacenters now on -ab -ex and -im. This is the second time this has happened in two weeks.


 5:31 pm on Jan 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Here we go again...
Looks (again) like the -in results are moving to the other data centers. Anyone else seeing this?


 4:54 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

-gv has been offline for days; -va went offline twenty-four hours ago; -fi now seems to have joined them. Something's cooking I guess.


 5:09 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I see that too. And for the very first time, I see tonight that the -in results have now made their way across all data centers (except for those DCs that are MIA)


 6:38 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yes steveb, all those three data-centers you have mentioned have gone offline.


 7:25 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

hmmm, did toolbar PR just flick off for anyone else?


 7:34 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I had previously had my toolbar set to -va, so when it went offline so did my toolbar PR. But now I changed it one of the active ones. -ab at least is working right now.


 7:36 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have been scared by the TOPIC for a few times when I saw it appearing on top of Google News forum. Because it look like an annoucement instead of a question. Mod, should you include a '? at the end of the TITLE?


 9:13 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

Now -dc looks like it has gone AWOL too. Four datacenters offline.

Those folks who complained that Google should test major changes offline first may be getting their wish... and about to see the results.


 12:27 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

How often does Google update the search hardware? How much new stuff do they need to accomodate a growing number of searches?

What method would Google use to retire 10 000 machines in one datacentre and bring 10 000 new machines online in their place?

Maybe bring a couple of new datacentres online, then when they are working, just switch the old ones off.

Did they add three or four new datacentres towards the end of last year?

Have a similar number disappeared now?

Hmm, think it over.

[edited by: g1smd at 12:35 am (utc) on Jan. 13, 2004]


 12:35 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

So many datacentres offline - does anybody else have a slight nervous feeling about this? What's coming?


 1:57 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm excited about it. A lot of piffle is crawling its way back up the serps via endless reams of off-topic links, so a great big huge knob turn in favor of on-topic authority/localrank would be super-great.

Also great would be a change that eliminates the large number of straight redirects.

Also great would be some filtering of subdomains.

Of course they might not do a good job of what they will try to do, but datacenters offline would seem to indicate another positive, major change in either the algorithm or the accuracy of it. You don't take datacenters offline just to again make anchor text 98% of the algorithm again.


 4:27 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I hope that you are right. I sincerely hope that Google can come up with something a lot better than what they now have!
I hope that all these datacenters are not offline simply because they are... hmmm... broken?


 4:50 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Talk about blind speculation.


 4:58 am on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Now there are SIX datacenters down, leaving only FOUR running. Yes, I am getting nervous. Feels like either something HUGE is about to happen, or G is having some serious problems! Scary stuff...

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