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photonstudios




msg:141271
 8:36 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

I noticed a pattern while doing an experiment with google today. I would type in "widgets widgets" and see where my site is ranked for that particular keyword. Then I did the same at www3.google.com and I noticed that my site moved up in rank significantly, around 100 pages up in rank. I did the same for other keywords and I noticed the same pattern, my site moved up in rank for all of the major keywords I have optimized it for. My question is...does it take time for google to update it's database and move a more relevant site up in rank (my site is relatively new) if the keywords I'm optimizing for are competitive? Hence, it takes time to update all the sites related to that keyword? And do you think there is a chance that my site will continue to move up in rank with every google dance?

 

kaled




msg:141272
 11:04 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

I believe that it is still considered a good sign to have better SERPS on WW2 and WW3 but I often notice that mine are a little better on these but only rarely do these improvements make it into WWW.

Cross you fingers.

Kaled.

cdxp




msg:141273
 2:39 am on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would say www2 has no bearing on where you end up.
Based on my observations i think www3/ww2 is a first pass through the google algorithm with some other factor (maybe actual traffic measurements from alexa or something or perhaps even a dab of human intervention) being applied prior to posting it on the main www server. Based on a simple keyword with approx 200 entries in google the act of observing my site a couple of times a day seems to move it up a position or two , leaving it alone drops it a position or two which is why i think it may be partly traffic based.

It was addictive looking for a few days - kinda bored now :-)

plasma




msg:141274
 4:02 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Searching "widgets widgets" means you are searching for pages that contain repeatedly widgets.
The SERP of that search is obviously totally different from that you want.

Why on earth would anyone search for "widgets widgets"?

mack




msg:141275
 4:05 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybee you want to buy to of them :-)

lol

Mack.

nileshkurhade




msg:141276
 4:18 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been waiting for www2, www3 and www-in to populate www for 4-5 days now. Rankings for my site certainly look very promising on those.

I have been trying to get the experts to answer if the results on www2, www3 or www-in will spill on to main www. But till date not getting any answers.

The thing I am sure is that when Florida results were diluted for first time, the results from these Datacenters did eventually spill over to main www.

So, only thing to do is wait and see if this happens this time round. Other thing I read on this forum was Googleguy saying that they were experimenting on www-in.

sem4u




msg:141277
 4:25 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been trying to get the experts to answer if the results on www2, www3 or www-in will spill on to main www. But till date not getting any answers.

Only Google knows the answer to this :) Didn't Googleguy say that he was going away for a few days? Don't expect a new index for a little while yet :)

So, only thing to do is wait and see if this happens this time round. Other thing I read on this forum was Googleguy saying that they were experimenting on www-in.

Yes. No point in worrying about something you have no control over.

seofreak




msg:141278
 4:31 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

according to me the DCs to watch out for are which have the maximum results. -cw and -fi have the maximum atm.

photonstudios




msg:141279
 10:01 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ok thanks for all your suggestions. I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens. I read an article from SEO marketing site that it is a matter of time for the www3 results to start showing in www, it takes about a month.

apfinlaw




msg:141280
 10:13 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

The -in results were displaying virtually everywhere over the weekend.

plasma




msg:141281
 10:44 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

I read an article from SEO marketing site that it is a matter of time for the www3 results to start showing in www, it takes about a month.

They were referring to the old update mechanism called 'Google Dance'.
Mucho changes since then.
Any datacenter may be the 'next' one, not necessarily www[23]

steveb




msg:141282
 11:38 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ignore www2 and www3. They seldom mean anything. All they are is one of the individual datacenters. Immediately at the beginning of one of these new type of updates www2 and www3 should show the basic "new" results, but the other 29 days out of the month they won't be showing anything particularly interesting.

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