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1 Datacenter is showing complete different results
www-in
baron13




msg:158418
 8:59 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

All datacenters are showing the same results with only some small changes but www-in shows completely different reults! It seems that in www-in are only complete new websites or websites which droped out of the index after the last update!

What does that mean for us?

 

shaadi




msg:158419
 1:31 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes! true...What does that mean for us?
A new update? a new filter? Relavent SERPs tho! All the rubbish is out and looks clean.

I had posted this 5 hours earlier, but I guess the moderators are not too happy with me.

Crush




msg:158420
 1:36 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

-in is rubbish in my opinion and I am sure after this post there will be a deluge of people who agree with me.

I have been in the top stop for years on google and in -in I am gone. Also are the 2 other biggest portals in my area. It would be a sad day for my widget area if this ever goes live.

[edited by: Crush at 2:25 pm (utc) on Dec. 12, 2003]

shaadi




msg:158421
 1:39 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

-in is rubbish

Rubbish is out, www-in is clean and looking good.

baron13




msg:158422
 1:39 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think www-in is rubbish and I hope this never goes live! :) Lots of sites with low pagerank and only 10-40 backlinks! Additional I can see some OOP websites which have been banned before!

mil2k




msg:158423
 1:44 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

-in is rubbish in my opinion and I am sure after this post there will be a deluge of people who agree with me.

For the record I agree :) But if you are checking competetive categories then no point as they have been filtered. And I think I am seeing -in results for past two hours now on WWW.

<edited> for Clarity

[edited by: mil2k at 2:08 pm (utc) on Dec. 12, 2003]

Crush




msg:158424
 1:46 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

My site is not rubbish and I do not get upto any shaadi business either ;)

-in is about as clean as the river Ganges

[edited by: Crush at 2:07 pm (utc) on Dec. 12, 2003]

baron13




msg:158425
 2:00 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I went through the serps of my industrie in www-in and I found the following results from the first pages:

First site with pr5 and 58 backlinks! All from guestbooks with endings like this "www.site.com/more/000046.php3"
Second site the same. Just links from guestbooks and other posting methods!
Third site the same...
4th site has pagerank 3!
5th pagerank 4 with 12 backlinks!
6th seems to be ok
7th seems to be ok
8th guestbook links again...

I think this will never be the new index because this is really rubbish!
Anyone seeing the same bad results in his undustrie in www-in?

rfgdxm1




msg:158426
 2:12 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

baron13, just because a site has low PR doesn't mean it is irrelevant. Flipping this around, would I deserve page 1 just because I could get a PR6 by purchasing some high PR backlinks? I'll concede the sites with just guestbook links shouldn't be there.

pchristensen




msg:158427
 2:27 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Rubbish is out, www-in is clean and looking good."

www-in and www3 look much better than before in terms of relevancy. The desired effect of the filters (keeping trash out) seem to have taken hold without the previous adverse effect of the Florida massacre.

elklabone




msg:158428
 2:57 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

www-in looks good from my point of view.

I wouldn't mind seeing this roll out.

baron13




msg:158429
 2:58 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

In my industrie no site which was in the top ten in the last months is in the top ten again now! I don't think that all sites which have been listed before in the top 10 do wrong now! I only see websites in the top 10 which were not in the top 100 in the last month!

Kwix




msg:158430
 3:05 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

In my industry -in is horrible. Not only because I'm not there... ;)

Seriously, one of the big rankers is an affiliate site, minimal backlinks and the page that shows up is a framed page that reeks of spam in the source. Nothing but meta data and comments. Another high up is an "authority site". Not that this is a bad thing, but the search term was "discount ******" and there is nothing "discount" about this site. If this is quality then my world just ended.

The pre-florida and current www. look better to me. Heck, even mid-Florida looked better than this dreck (and I wasn't there either).

Crush




msg:158431
 3:07 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

In my industrie no site which was in the top ten in the last months is in the top ten again now! I don't think that all sites which have been listed before in the top 10 do wrong now! I only see websites in the top 10 which were not in the top 100 in the last month!

Exactly what I am seeing

newwebster




msg:158432
 3:11 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

www-in seems more balanced and cleaned up a bit. Still could be better though. I am noticing that deep crawl data seems to be only be updating -in only creating the usual flux. The other data centers are static at this point. Is anyone else noticing this?

bunltd




msg:158433
 3:12 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Crush: that's what we're seeing too. www-in is awful.

LisaB

onfire




msg:158434
 3:24 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

WWW-IN is only clean if your an Ebayer!

Never seen so many Ebay sites at the top. (& many others)

You could not get more Ebay in the SERPS if you tried, might as well go to ebay.com, and also what was left was just other shopping directories.

Maybe www-in is Froogle in disguise ahhah, but i hope this -IN stays where it is

synergy




msg:158435
 3:55 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Seems like some people are seeing rubbish and others are seeing good results.

I myself am seeing good results. A multiple duplicate domain link spammer (that's a mouthful) that has been #1 since I started watching that particular serp last summer is finally GONE.

The rest of the results look pretty darn good. Only 2 sites now that I wouldn't include as being relevant to the search.

algarveb




msg:158436
 5:11 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've just checked out www-in and the results are about as bad as they could be for my keyphrases - totally irrelevant sites showing.

For example I search for 'my area' and get just about every other area than mine!

AthlonInside




msg:158437
 5:22 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

IN is ANTI link swappers.

If you are long enough in your industri and know your competitors well. Check the top SERPs. Most top sites backlinks are not reciprocated. Most are established site where people link to them for free long time ago. If it happens to have a few new sites, they probably bought a lot of links.

Sites that drop out are probably those that have over 90% links reciprocated.

seofreak




msg:158438
 5:42 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

IN is ANTI link swappers.

atleast not in my case .. although the link farm website has jumped to the 2nd page .. but those are still lurking around very close.

Kirby




msg:158439
 6:04 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

>IN is ANTI link swappers.

Not seeing that to be true in many cases.

mikeD




msg:158440
 6:10 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

www-in looks good from my point of view.
I wouldn't mind seeing this roll out.

you must be mad or extremely biased

baron13




msg:158441
 6:19 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Backlinks in www-in: Most sites have only a few backlinks and I see 5 out of the top 10 which have bought guestbook links in my industrie!

Additional I can see lots of irrelevant sites like www.domain.com/index2.html!

baron13




msg:158442
 6:22 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have an idea why www-in shows such bad results? Maybe googleguy can tell us something about that shi.!:)

baron13




msg:158443
 6:25 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

AAARGH oh my god!
Please take a look at www.alexa.com which is powered by google! It shows the same results as www-in!

Is google becoming crazy?

Stefan




msg:158444
 6:36 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

It shows the same results as www-in!

Not for me.

Baron, breathe slowly, look out the window, then turn off your computer for a little while... before you go stark, raving mad.

-in has not propagated. It is still just -in. Fuggedaboudit. Stop looking at it. Don't panic.

[edited by: Stefan at 6:37 pm (utc) on Dec. 12, 2003]

peego1




msg:158445
 6:36 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

for some reason, i've been seeing -in results on www since early yesterday monring (i'm in canada). and its still showing -in results right now.

the results are terrible.

sharpie_79




msg:158446
 6:53 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

was there a backlink update?
after last update wasn't yahoo at 762,000?
right now google is showing 789,000

Stefan




msg:158447
 7:02 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Backlinks were updated on Dec 6 along with PR.

Baron13, when you've turned your computer back on and check this thread... I don't know the workings of the site you checked, but I'd imagine it looks at different dc's and -in is one of them. -in results are live on about a tenth of the searches right now.

All you people obsessing about -in... when GG asked for feedback on it, I got the impression that it was an experiment and not at all necessarily the next version of the serps. Just stop looking at the thing, everyone, and give yourselves a break. Maybe if you ignore it, it will go away.

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