| 7:54 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Two index pages (one of them mine) that were top 5 pre-florida are back at #3-4. The problem still exists with the psuedo directory sites. SERPS mat be changing, but overall I still think that, at least for my interests, they are poor. It seems they simply turned the anchor text knob a bit more the last day or so.
<added>found another result where only keyword is in title, but not anchor text, so perhaps just the PR knob?</added>
[edited by: Kirby at 7:57 pm (utc) on Dec. 7, 2003]
| 7:55 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Way off topic but this update (if it REALLY is an update! ;) ) has already been dubbed Galen [webmasterworld.com] in message #2. It was predicted here [webmasterworld.com]. Better late then never as they say! :)
Personally, I think it's all part of Florida, but what do I know... :)
| 8:00 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Surely you can't give a false-alarm update, give it a name, and then use it days later!
It is Update Greenwich ;)
| 8:01 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Most of my pages which were missing during the Florida update are now back in "www".
[edited by: Imaster at 8:05 pm (utc) on Dec. 7, 2003]
| 8:04 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I have found my index page on the data centres www2 and www3 after disapearing during florida update, but not on the regular serps, dos anybody no how long it takes to transfer for the data centre serps to normal serps.
| 8:08 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I loved this earlier post and I'd like to re-iterate it (with apologies to the original author)
Fasten your seatbeats!
For Update Greenwich ;)
| 8:11 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Not an update. Minor changes because a janitor at Google polished a few knobs.
GG said updates were occurring now only after algos were tested and then released. This is NOT a new algo.
| 8:14 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I disagree Kirkby,
First major changes I have seen in days.
Keep those seatbelts fastened.
| 8:15 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Not seeing any major changes for our lost keywords on www, www2 or www3 . In fact not seeing any real significant change for these keywords... Was hoping for any early Christmas present, doesn't look like that is going to happen.
| 8:20 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>>Minor changes because a janitor at Google polished a few knobs
New PR on new sites that were whitebar after Florida, new backlinks showing, homepages buried, now born-again. It may not be an 'update' but it's a dance.
added: still shaking too. I went from pg 1 to pg 2 to pg 3 back to pg 1 in the matter of a few hours. Weaker competitors are still MIA so I expect they'll be along shortly.
P.S. I think the days of a lil' old real estate agent kicking tail for 'mystate real estate' or 'mycountry real estate' are a thing of the past, and rightfully so, and I applaud Google even though it hurts. ;)
| 8:51 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Florida started on 11/15, then really shook things up around 11/21 or so. This is just part 3.
skipfactor, 2 of my little real estate sites are back on top among the directories, and in a few cities like vegas, the agent sites were never really touched by Florida. Still cant figure out what they are doing. If they like directories, why am I back?
| 8:58 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Really donīt know,
the only index of my banned, the swedish, exactly the same as other languages, is still lost, the only improve, new pages om mine are added
| 9:01 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Hey guess what I just found in the normal serps. YES my index page YIPPEE. Also I had my first enquiry for ages things are looking up. Merry christmas every one.
| 9:23 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
For those of you coming back, does your new SERP match the same as if you would search with the -waffle or -dfdfdf
appended to your search term?
| 9:29 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>>For those of you coming back, does your new SERP match the same as if you would search with the -waffle or -dfdfdf appended to your search term?
Good question. Not even close from here.
| 9:32 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>For those of you coming back, does your new SERP match the same as if you would search with the -waffle or -dfdfdf
appended to your search term?
Good question, but the answer is no.
<added>skipfactor types faster</added>
| 9:38 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>If they like directories, why am I back?
To answer my own rhetorical question, I am now getting 30% of my uniques for searches related to text in or around outgoing links. Perhaps I've reached directory status. LOL
Actually I'm beginning to think they turned the knob on outgoing links.
| 9:44 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
my sites dont back already, :(
| 9:48 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
If I search with -dfdfdf at the end of my keyphrase I am 4 poitions better off.
| 10:02 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
It's definitely not pre-Florida. It's an algo tweak/change, but there are at least two (and probably more) Florida effects still showing. One is word stemming, which makes some keyphrases much more competitive. Another is some sort of change to the weightings (or a new weighting) in the algo that is still returning different rankings to pre-Florida.
It certainly gets some pages back near where they were before.
But not others :(
| 10:12 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
The several sites I've been monitoring on the Search Engine That Cannot Be Named on WebmasterWorld are not showing up in red anymore. That means they're coming back into the top 100. However, they're not coming in like gang-busters; rather, they're sneaking in the back door, and ending up between 35 and 100. They all used to be very close to the top in the unfiltered search. Now, of course, they are not defined as a top-100 bounce, so you can no longer see where these sites used to be from the unfilterd top 100 from Nov 18 to Dec 6.
| 10:23 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Hmmm. Yes, I have two sites that were top of the serps with basic, no-frills, whitehat optimization. They are back, behind a few spammer sites, but back from oblivion... Too early to celebrate...
| 10:29 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Pre Google: 2 - 6
Post Florida: 14 - 31
Is this the Galem update, or is this a bug fix.
Has anybody been restored to their original position, that did not do any de-optimization.
The funny thing, my 14th place result is the third most relevent site for the keyword in question. Now the trick is to get ahead of the 12 irrelent sites, that are ahead of me, so the consumers does not have to scan all the crap.
| 10:47 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
keyphrase -dslfkjdsf gives me the #10 position....which is exactly where I was from Nov 8 to 13th JUST before the Florida update. That was, by the way, my best position for that lucrative keyphrase. What exactly does keyphrase -afkdlfd tell us? And why is it important?
P.S. By the way, my site never disappeared during "Florida", just moved between #12 and #15 (for that particular keyphrase). But being on the 1st page is gold!
| 10:48 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
One of my sites had disappeared in late November and has now returned back to its original position. My two competitors had also disappeared in late November around that same time, but only one of them returned.
| 10:59 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Semetric seems to have learned a lot in the last couple of days!
| 11:09 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
It seems that Florida is over after all, however even though sites are back, positions are not back to the same place.
Nevertheless, I can see a lot of PageRank updates (I have to sites up to 6, 3 up to 5, 1 up to 7) and backlinks are updated as well - all together, IMO this is news as I recall these changes used to be performed with some space between them (positions, pagerank, backlinks...)
| 11:21 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Okay... I need some help here. If I search for my site with kw kw -dfdfdf by site comes back to pre-Florida position 4 : -) but when searching www2 and 3 without -dfdfdf I am way down in the rank.
My question is what is the -dfdfdf for? What does it predict for future results?
| 11:30 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
slowly but surely....c'mon Big G...keep cranking that knob...I really really want to spend New Years in Denver....
| 11:50 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
A bit early to tell, but my main site has re-entered the list in the 40s at the current time. Now this week I have:
(1) changed the structure of the site a little
(2) tightened my sales pitch and sales text
(3) changed the keywords
(4) changed the keyword density
(5) chewed my nails badly
Wondering if I have achieved anything or not. We'll see. But so far so good.
| 11:56 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)|
We made it back to page one. Not the same place, but closer than number 8 billion or whatever it was before...
I did make some changes regarding title and keyword density though. Perhaps that moved us up a bit farther than others.