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better ranking internal or external links?

 10:14 am on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi, checking the sites that are before me searching on my keywords, before I was in the top.............. but now that google index higher pages with better ranking than content, see that these sites all have external links, and when checking link:http://www.exampel can see that their own external links are counted as links, an mine internal are not, so should I change my internal to external?



 11:28 am on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Use alltheweb.com to check your competitors genuine external backlinks.

search for :-

link:domain.com -site:domain.com

You may find your competitors have better (more) backlinks than you realise.


PS : Altavista advanced search syntax is the same.


 11:50 am on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi helenp

It is widely believed that Google only shows back-links for pages > PR 4.



 12:46 pm on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks kavlen and dave,
what do you mean >4pr? My index site is ranked 4, the rest 3,
I think putting in external link is spam, if they really are internal, I have a site with more than 100 pages in 3 languages, 6 index pages, if works would give me more than 100 links to my index and rest of pages, though have the links in an sitemap at the end of pages (itīs language, and a flag with link to other languages).


 12:53 pm on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

helenp, I think your mixing things up. If I'm wonrg just ignore me.

It sounds almost like you beleive that changine a link on your own apges from:

<a href="/homepage.html">Home</a>


<a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/homepage.html">Home</a>

will change it magically form an internal to external link. This is not so.

An external link is one from a page NOT in your domain to a page in your domain, while an internal link is a link form a page in your domain to another page on the same domain. The syntax of the link is irrelevant and completely ignored by SEs.

I was just wondering if you were confused about that. If not, please take no offense and simply ignore my rambling blabber mouth ;)



 1:19 pm on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

what do you mean >4pr? My index site is ranked 4, the rest 3

It is about the PageRank of the page with the link AND the page being linked. If they are both PR4 or higher than you have a better chance to see it as a backlink in the SERPs (Search Engine Results Page). But it is still possible to see backlinks for lower PRs, or to miss links that should show up. External links (links from other sites to pages on your site) should not give you a higher PageRank than internal links. For ranking on the SERPs however, it could help if you have more external links pointing to your pages.

BTW, I do see some internal links for the site in your profile to your home and sub pages.


 2:23 pm on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes I can see now I was confused...........sorry
But when comparing my links and competirors,
my internal links are not counted at all as links.....
while theirs is counting as links, so that way more pages they do, more links they get.....................

supposed what you said that google only take it in consider if ranked higher than 4......... itīs correct, my other index pages are included as links, but others pages are not
this is not fare................


 2:41 pm on Dec 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well it is fair, because all links known to Google even if not shown, will still help your PageRank.

The results show a sample of the links that point to your page,but this list is in no way indicative of the link structure utilized by Google to formulate a page's PageRank.
Reply of The Google Team about missing back links - see: Questioning the currency of Google backlinks [webmasterworld.com]

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