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Froogle Relabled?
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msg:55959
 7:42 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Today Google added this

If you search for a product using Google, you may see relevant information displayed at the top of your search results labeled "Product Search". These links are culled from Froogle and are not advertisements, as merchants do not pay for inclusion within Froogle's search results

from here [google.com]

 

europeforvisitors




msg:55960
 7:53 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Logic says, they'll go public before Christmas. Doesn't it? Why wait until January? There's so much more of a benefit for them to release it now, one would think.

If they'd wanted to "go public" with Froogle before Christmas, surely they'd have done so by now.

mmdesign




msg:55961
 8:23 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Do searchers really want to just see: product image + price for anything imaginable? That is the question Froogle and Yahoo Shopping need to consider. IMHO, an online purchase requires a little more info that that, in general.

glitterball




msg:55962
 8:44 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybe Google will never release Froogle.

Google seem to be aware that they are at their peak and have decided to cash in before going into decline (presumable when MS launches it's search).

If they were to launch Froogle, they would be attacking their own advertising revenue. These new SERPS seem to follow the same idea - when your products aren't showing up in the Google index you need to pay.

What the world needs is an 'open non-profit' search engine so that this Monopoly situation cannot happen again.

Rugles




msg:55963
 1:38 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

This coming Monday would be an excellent day to make a "froogle" announcement. Everyone will be back to work and tired of shopping malls.
The financial people who are salivating over the IPO will love the concept.

So fasten your seatbelts, I expect something soon.

Please keep in mind that I have been wrong before, so please, no wagering.

Chndru




msg:55964
 2:11 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

ahh..just yesterday, i was saying something like this. [webmasterworld.com...]

I did a couple of searches and i aint getting any froogle links on the serps, yet.

samwise




msg:55965
 4:49 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Froogle is death to any and all affiliate sites. When Google turns it on and they will very soon just watch and see what happens.

Google has signed up as an affilate for quite a number of sites and are receiving affilate referral fees from the Froogle site. Just look at the links! You will see affiliate numbers. I suspect they will hiding these numbers soon. I hope I'm not dropped from the search engine because I saying this.

Just go look for yourself

Peace and have Thank Full-Time

HayMeadows




msg:55966
 5:29 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

This coming Monday would be an excellent day to make a "froogle" announcement.

This would be about the only way Google could redeem itself, after killing so much of our recent SEO work just before Christmas.

Arrrggghhh - me not liking Google so much right now.

sun818




msg:55967
 5:38 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you are serving results based on price, you need also need to display tax, shipping and handling. Neither Froogle nor Yahoo are able to do this. PriceGrabber, mySimon, and BizRate can give you a total shipped price (price, tax, shipping and handling). If Google launches some form of Froogle, it needs to be far better than what is currently available.

ThomasB




msg:55968
 11:19 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

There's also a big legal problem as far as I can see:
The prices in most shops are subject to change every second and froogle would make lots of shop-owner angry if people see that the prices yesterday were cheaper than today. Many shops also prohibit saving prices for price comparison sites, which would also prohibit Google using their data. I think a opt-in version of Froogle is the only secure way for going public.

greyhat




msg:55969
 12:25 am on Nov 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

After seeing that screenshot a while ago I think that Froogle is going to be another serious game to be playing in.
I also suprised that it's not live yet...being that Yahoo Products kinda beat them to the punch.
I'd bet these New Froogle results will be live on regular searches any day now.

barn_de




msg:55970
 4:27 pm on Dec 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

hi,

@glitterball:
i don't think, that they will loose a lot of money. the traffic on froogle is a lot more targeted than on google.com. so the bids on the keywords which appear on froogle could be higher. for example, if bid on the KW "widget XY" could also show up at "widget XY update".

of course, i pay only, if people click, but still i don't want people who are looking for software updates on this widget. and i know, i can disable this broad match stuff. but still i think the traffic on froogle is more valuable for shops than on google.

@samwise:
do you know for sure, that google signed up as affiliate at the shops? i don't think so. i think, that the shopowners just want to see, what froogle brings them. this is how we did it in the past. just give a trackable link to the partner.

i really think, that they will start froogle, and it will try to implement every shop in the web without charging them. this is their philosophy since 5 years. deliver the best information.

"you can make money without doing evil" as google says.

barn

Compworld




msg:55971
 4:56 pm on Dec 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

The current Froogle service is useless and would not survive. The main reason is that they do not accept affiliate sites. They are shooting themselves in the foot, as well as upsetting many merchants that use this as a way to sell items from their web sites.

The main problem, again is alienating the merchants that then need in order for Froogle to survive. So, in closing, their service is useless at its current state.

CompWorld

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