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Got indexed in Google and my traffic quadrupled!
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ghankerson

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Msg#: 20063 posted 4:41 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been trying to increase traffic for my website and stumbled on this website a couple months ago. I found the awesome page on getting to the top of Google in 1 year and followed it for the last 2 months. I have been getting a bit of traffic from MSN but Google finally added 40 some pages I created using the "How To get in Google" article and now my traffic has gone up at least 5 times! I paid for inclusion for Fast and Inktomi and that helped a little, but nothing compared to the traffic from Google. I just wanted to thank this forum for your help! Now I just need to optimize my pages to get them to the top. And I really need to focus on getting pages to link to me.

Using the Overture search suggestion tool really helped to create keyword combinations. I also found a bunch of misspelled keyword combos and I rank 1 or 2 for those. What portion of the market does Google have? I've heard near 50%. Hope I posted this in the correct forum as it's my first.

 

synergy

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Msg#: 20063 posted 5:04 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld!

ogletree

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Msg#: 20063 posted 5:07 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Some say they have 90% because they provide the results for AOL and Yahoo.

aspdesigner

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Msg#: 20063 posted 5:19 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Congratulations! But before you count your chickens, first check your server logs to see what search terms they are finding you under, and how relevant they are to what you sell/promote/etc.

The reason I say that is that things are really in flux right now, and a lot of people (as well as various sites of both our's and our clients) are reporting getting hits from Google for searches that don't match what their site is about.

They were previously known for being very good at this.

Things may change suddenly as well, as we're all hopeful that Google can get this glitch fixed soon and better match the returned sites with the right searches.

Either way, congrats on the extra traffic! Hope it can do you some good.

frup

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Msg#: 20063 posted 5:23 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yeah, which keyword is key. I am doing amazingly well for keyword1, but I used to be doing well for keyword1 keyword2. Keyword1 traffic is nice but doesn't convert. It is the broadest possible keyword.

panic

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Msg#: 20063 posted 5:30 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yeah, which keyword is key. I am doing amazingly well for keyword1, but I used to be doing well for keyword1 keyword2. Keyword1 traffic is nice but doesn't convert. It is the broadest possible keyword.

Conversions matter, but not too much with Google since it's free traffic. If you were paying a CPC, then conversions would be THE key.

-panic

Marcia

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Msg#: 20063 posted 5:36 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome ghankerson, and congratulations!

frup

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:00 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

panic, at least in the old days, it was possible to target specific keywords. Targeting a keyword that gets you a lot of traffic may not be as good as targeting one that actually converts.

Same is true when you develop new sites. Determining what converts helps you figure out where to focus energy.

It's an important question even if the traffic is free.

ghankerson

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:00 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the welcome! I took that into consideration when I designed it. I don't want unnecessary traffic. I want them to want what I have. Only time will tell if this new traffic generates the same amount of money per click. Hopefully it'll bring more. I'm wondering if I am going to reach my bandwidth limits now. I guess that could be a good thing.

My logs show I am hitting the keywords I wanted, and some others I didn't plan on, but they are still relevant. I still have 70% of my pages to index.

aspdesigner

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:19 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

fup, I agree. At least with paid you have some control, if a search isn't working for you, you can just change it.

Free traffic can actually be damaging under the present circumstances. If your sites gets one of those unrelated top listings for a real popular search, you could find your server crashing from the load, a hosting bill that goes interstellar, and nothing to show for it but a lot of people who were actually looking for something else instead!

Thinking about that, I kinda feel for that poor real estate guy with the Top 10 listing for a super-competitive unrelated 1-word search! If even a tiny percentage of all the people doing that search this time of year click to his site just out of curiosity, his site could easily get "smoked" by all the traffic!

lty83

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:37 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I found the awesome page on getting to the top of Google in 1 year and followed it for the last 2 months.

You wouldn't happen to have the link to that page would you? Thanks! :)

AthlonInside

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:47 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

They say 90% of the affiliates income are made by 10% of the top affiliates.

I would also add that

90% of the search engine traffic are made by Google and their partner sites. :)

ogletree

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:48 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Also it is not uncommon to have a new site come out guns ablaze and then fall off to nothing. Once you lose your new site status it may go away.

Yidaki

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:52 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Once you lose your new site status it may go away

... but may come back even stronger.

aspdesigner

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:56 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Sorry about the OT reply, but I have been having some problems with the Google forum on my PC (topics keep being suddenly displayed as locked), and when I tried to post a question about it, the system gave me siome kind of error about being "on hold"? Is anyone here having problems with posting a new topic right now?

ogletree

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Msg#: 20063 posted 6:57 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

No probs here.

Yidaki thanks I forgot to add that.

ghankerson

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20063 posted 7:01 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

ITY83:

Here is the link: [webmasterworld.com...]

ghankerson

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Msg#: 20063 posted 7:55 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have another website that uses the same IP address, I think you'd call it a subdomain.

ie. mywebsite1.com & mywebsite2.com which is really mywebsite.com/mywebsite2/

Will the second website lose rankings with Google because it does not have it's own IP? I assume I cannot link to myself and get credit for it if they share IPs.

elklabone

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Msg#: 20063 posted 8:04 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ghank,

My belief is that a subdomain is

wwWebmasterWorldebsite.com VS. products.mywebsite.com

Since you're using two different domain names, Google should view them as separate websites, unless you're using very very similar content (word for word) and in that case you could trip the infamous "duplicate content filter". If that happens, the one with the lowest PR would be removed. (As I understand it).

Using the Same IP shouldn't be an issue, since most shared webhosting systems will host hundreds of sites on one IP address.

panic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20063 posted 8:20 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Free traffic can actually be damaging under the present circumstances. If your sites gets one of those unrelated top listings for a real popular search, you could find your server crashing from the load, a hosting bill that goes interstellar, and nothing to show for it but a lot of people who were actually looking for something else instead!

There's lots of affordable, fast, and stable hosts out there. These days, server load should never be an issue (with connection speeds as high as they are).

-p

aspdesigner

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20063 posted 9:13 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you have a decent cluster of servers and load-balancers, then fine.

But if they're on shared hosting on a single PC, they could run into a problem, particularly if their site has extras like database-generated content.

The problem is not the connection speed, it's the server trying to keep up with all the requests.

This is a not unusual thing to see, they even have a name for it! You may have heard of a small site getting "slashdotted", or linked to by somebody like an MSNBC story, and their site is brought to it's knees by the load.

oodlum

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20063 posted 12:48 am on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

aspdesigner

Yep - I got the "on hold" message too. The moderators are being careful with new threads.

I tried to start a dedicated "Florida rants, raves and observations" thread so that other threads can stay on topic and people can have an outlet to vent constructively.

jranes

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 20063 posted 2:25 am on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

congrats ghankerson. sticky me your site! aspdesigner, i have a friend i always send links to through im to here and he get some kind of login page or all kinds of wierd stuff. don't know if it it cookies or what.

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