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curly_clare




msg:90113
 2:38 pm on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi All,

A bit of a discussion for you...

having analysed my clients competitors I was puzzled as to why one site ranked higher than ours in google. In terms of KW prominence and link popularity our site was far more favourable.

Having looked at their source code I saw that they used the meta tags twice, one in the <head> and one in the <body> tag....as below (I have removed the contents for ethical reasons).

Surely this can't be the reason they rank highly, Google doesn't even pay attention to Meta tags.

Any suggestions?

-------------------------------------------

<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE></TITLE>
<META Name="description" Content="">
<META Name="keywords" Content="">
<meta name="copyright" content="">
<meta name="client" content="">
<meta name="E-mail contact" content="">

</HEAD>

<frameset cols="*,640,*" frameborder="no" framespacing="0" border="0">
<frame src="blank.html" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" NORESIZE="noresize" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" border="0">

<frameset rows="65,*" frameborder="no" framespacing="0" border="0">
<frame src="display.html" name="display" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" NORESIZE="noresize" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" border="0">
<frame src="main.html" name="main" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0"
NORESIZE="noresize" scrolling="auto" frameborder="0" border="0">
</frameset>

<frame src="blank.html" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" NORESIZE="noresize" scrolling="no">
</frameset>

<NOFRAMES>

<body>
<TITLE></TITLE>
<META Name="description" Content="">
<META Name="keywords" Content="">
<meta name="copyright" content="">
<meta name="client" content="">
<meta name="E-mail contact" content="">
</body>
</noframes>
</frameset>
</HEAD>

<BODY BGCOLOR="FFFFFF" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#FF0000" VLINK="#FF0000" ALINK="#000000">

_________________________________________

 

illusionist




msg:90114
 4:29 pm on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

yes but those keywords are in the body...arent they.

geezajob




msg:90115
 4:36 pm on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have seen something similar to this before.. looking at our server logs, I'd say a good 90%+ users have frame-enabled browsers..

I've noticed more and more of our competitors providing a nice clean front end, but then adding this to the bottom of the page..

<NOFRAMES>
<H1>WIDGET1 WIDGET2</H2>
<H2>Your WIDGET1 website WIDGET2</H2>
</NOFRAMES>

OK, so perhaps 10% of your readership are going to see a godawful page, but who cares when google places great emphasis on H1 tags and boosts your website up the rankings considerably.. I mean.. it's better to be 90% compliant to a huge number of clickthrus than 100% compliant to hardly any clickthrus.

I've reported this to Google, to no avail.

curly_clare




msg:90116
 5:04 pm on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks Geezajob, it will be interesting on whether or not google pick up on this and class it as 'spam'...well thats what it seems like to me!

g1smd




msg:90117
 10:54 pm on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

They stand a good chance of the page failing to display in some browsers.... nice #1 listing, shame that no one can visit the page. Don't do it!

plasma




msg:90118
 11:00 pm on Nov 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've reported this to Google, to no avail.

me too.
Yesterday I even posted here a new topic about noframes & noscript, but as usual it got deleted :-(

plumsauce




msg:90119
 4:23 am on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)



but as usual it got deleted :-(

welcome to the club

geezajob




msg:90120
 9:38 am on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

nice #1 listing, shame that no one can visit the page. Don't do it!
Not so. Only browsers that don't support frames won't render the page well.. and as that's a tiny percentage.. the benefits (high placement) outweighs the cost (few people won't see it properly)
punta




msg:90121
 9:45 am on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

but as usual it got deleted :-(
welcome to the club

I must say, I do have to question WebmasterWorld's editorial policy.

Ages ago I started a topic about Google crawling IRC. It didn't appear on the boards. Then a few days later, the same story was splashed acroos slashdot.org and theregister.co.uk .

All of a sudden, my post appeared and got given prominence on the front page.

So, my story was utterly irrelevant until Slashdot and The Register thought it was relevant! What's the point in Webmaster World if a story has to break elsewhere before it's given any credibility?

naturalinstinct




msg:90122
 3:03 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

i wouldn't be surprise if this thread gets deleted very soon.

plasma




msg:90123
 7:28 pm on Nov 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Any idea, why our topics get deleted while the 1000th newbie post is put live?

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