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JoeyBall




msg:182009
 9:50 pm on Nov 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

My site is top 10 for one paticular keyword on all of the datacenters but i never see my site live on google.com

is there any reason for this, where is google getting the info from. i had thought google shows data from the datacenters.

 

Skier




msg:182010
 11:05 pm on Nov 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just saw the same - Live results that did not match any of the 10 data centers. So where did those results come from?

One more thing. I called my partner who did a search on another machine - He got "good" results repeatedly. Repeated searches from my end just brought up the dc-unmatched results.

James_Dale




msg:182011
 11:20 pm on Nov 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

how many datacentres are in your list? There always one or two I forget about. I can think of 13 off the top of my head...

Crisco




msg:182012
 1:50 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Whats the significance of the datacenters in regards to updating the www versions?

E.G. is there a particular order in which they filter down or is it random?

What Im getting at is if you see your site doing good on say datacenter .in- is that better than say seeing your site doing good on .ex-?

Curious.

casper




msg:182013
 3:15 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

We also got the same problem here we see our site in there datacenter, but not in there actual site(google.com, and also we try 2 cumputer search on the same keyword, but it show different result and different PR...What happen to GOOGLE?

PR_Analyzer




msg:182014
 4:10 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wow and wow, some things stick and others don't. I wish the man behind the curtain would stop cranking the wheel and let whatever may happen, happen. Some of these results are other search engine results, lots of directories (I guess that library class in college paid off for the directory folks), lots of link exchanges. Just a whole lot of weirdness for some of the money holiday season terms. Sorry had to vent, won't complain as some terms have stuck like glue, but wow. Also, noticing some shifting in first page positions, mostly 4-10 on the terms I've been checking. Oh yeah this is my first post, been a lurking on and off for years. Have been reading about dashed keywords, back links, front link, PR and let's just hope they acccidently crossed databases with inkt/yahoo for a week or two. J/K Seriously though, wow!

Tropical Island




msg:182015
 10:29 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well I've finally joined the club.

After having one of the most informative sites on our area place well for years it has disappeared this morning from www and the rest of the data centres..

This is a completely white hat site - now gone.

Where is the Google update thread as these changes are still going on. The serps are very different this morning as compared to yesterday.

Mark_A




msg:182016
 10:35 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

patience is a virtue

davemarks




msg:182017
 10:50 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can see this too - just got off from the phone to a client...

His site had completly disappeared from NO 2 for him, even completly lossed for his company name :o

However looking from my machine, i see him right there where he was.

Looking at www1 www2 www3 though i see what he's seeing - not site.

Now www1 has completly disappeared for both of us - ie no google.

What the hell is going on?

Tropical Island




msg:182018
 11:27 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

This is a completely white hat site - now gone.

Just checked again and we're back.

Not the way to start the morning.

crobb305




msg:182019
 2:39 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

There are more than 10 datacenters. There is at least one (www-mc.google.com) that rarely talked about. Others are discovered all the time.

Crisco




msg:182020
 3:27 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes, but what are their responsibilities? Do they have some sort of hierarchal structure or is it totally random?

SEOmariachi




msg:182021
 7:26 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have an up to date list of discovered data centers and there IPs (for replacing toolbarqueries.google.com in host?)

even the ones that are down [zu, etc]?

Ole!
SEOMariachi

oaktown




msg:182022
 7:47 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Here's my list of datacenters (excluding -mc)

ab - Sterling, Virginia, USA
cw - Palo Alto, California, USA
dc - Washington, DC, USA
ex - Santa Clara, California, USA
fi -?, Virginia, USA
gv - Dublin, Ireland
in - Santa Clara, California, USA
kr -?, Ireland
sj - San Jose, California, USA (down)
va - Herndon, Virginia, USA
zu - Zurich, Switzerland (down)
www2 -?
www3 -?

Did I miss some/

Any additions or corrections?

SEOmariachi




msg:182023
 8:08 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thats a good start :)

Thanks

Olee..
SEOMariachi

Crisco




msg:182024
 8:44 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

What are the datacenters responsibilities?

Do they serve merely as backup / redundancy servers?

Do each run filters independent of the other datacenters E.G. are they working in conjunction with one another?

Do they have some sort of hierarchal structure? E.G. ex- is more important that in-?

Personally I could care less if there are 5,10, 100 for that matter if they donít serve a distinct purpose independent of the next E.G. all working together as a team with specific goals/task to arrive at a final product.

Unless a process of operation is identified what is the benefit of running around checking all the servers? I suggest if you donít understand the meaning of what your seeing when you view the results being displayed by the datacenters your wasting your time looking in the first place.

takagi




msg:182025
 2:32 am on Nov 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Did I miss some/

Any additions or corrections?

The www2 and www3 are not datacenters, the resolve in one of the real datacenters just like 'www.google.com'. And there is a also new one in Ireland: lm [webmasterworld.com]

E.G. is there a particular order in which they filter down or is it random?

...

Yes, but what are their responsibilities? Do they have some sort of hierarchal structure or is it totally random?

There is no fixed order in which they are updated. New pages, backlinks, PageRank etc. first appear on a random datacenter and also which DC is second, third, etc. seems to be random. Some members here have even found that data appeared on some DC, started spreading but never made it to all of them and then this new data was later gone on all DCs.

oaktown




msg:182026
 6:58 pm on Nov 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks loads Takagi! A little clarity is worth its weight in gold.

I will delete them (www2, www3) from my list. On several occasions, I have seen what you describe:

"data appeared on some DC, started spreading but never made it to all of them and then this new data was later gone on all DCs."

To me this begs the question, If the data was valid in the first place, does it represent a flaw in the system when it disappears? If the data was bad, why was it even posted anywhere? And finally, is there any pattern as to how far it spreads?

Has anyone else noticed any similar patterns or trends?

oaktown




msg:182028
 9:35 pm on Nov 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Prejudice, thanks for the tip. I downloaded abcpr (it's mostly in French and/or broken English) and it works pretty well. And yes, when a dc is gone it does say "dead". It doesn't seem to include the new dcs (mc, lc) and still has the dead guys (sj, zu).

prejudice




msg:182029
 11:31 pm on Nov 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Oaktown,

I realise it says dead in two of the data centers, but for one of my sites every datacenter reports as "Dead"

That has to be worrying doesn't it? I know there is alot happening at Google with the update, but this really spells trouble for my site, unless someone can tell me something that I don't know about this pagerank program.

prejudice




msg:182030
 11:34 pm on Nov 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

The only one missing out that list is www-mc

which I think was mentioned further up the thread, I would love this dc to move over onto google, but somehow I doubt it.

plasma




msg:182031
 3:58 am on Nov 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

patience is a virtue

You say it, brother.

anallawalla




msg:182032
 5:45 am on Nov 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can't bring up www-sj (main source for me to see US ads). Is it visible to others?

(I have been overseas for most of the past 6 weeks so am not up-to-date with WW. I just saw an oblique mention in another post that -sj is down. Any alternative for seeing US-targeted Adwords?)

irishaff




msg:182033
 6:10 am on Nov 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

is there ip address' to go with those dc s?
i got a ping back from 216.239.39.99 which I cant find in my google dance viewer..perhaps its out of date.

aspdesigner




msg:182034
 11:14 am on Nov 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

That IP is only 1 off from the IP address for www-dc.google.com (216.239.39.100), so it is likely at the DC data center.

P.S. - check-out plasma's good list of the recent DC's, including their IP addresses, here -

[webmasterworld.com...]

Tropical Island




msg:182035
 1:03 pm on Nov 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can't bring up www-sj (main source for me to see US ads). Is it visible to others?

If this is to see your AdWords then do a search for the term you want on Google.com from your area. When the results come up ad &gl=us to the url and hit enter. You will then see the ads displayed in the US.

You can also change the US to UK, NL, DE, etc to see other countries.

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