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Backlinks seem to be updated on -va
seofreak




msg:210595
 4:05 am on Nov 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

just saw new PR showing up for sites and backlinks on -va

although I don't see that big a update for the backlinks, atleast for mine and other sites.

yahoo:

normal 759,000 backlinks
-va.google.com 762,000 backlinks

[edited by: vitaplease at 11:22 am (utc) on Nov. 20, 2003]
[edit reason] number typo [/edit]

 

seofreak




msg:210596
 1:36 pm on Nov 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

generally it's been sunday or monday when google's updated .. this was an odd day.

seofreak




msg:210597
 4:58 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

amazingly no one's interested to share anything .. hmm

BryantStevens




msg:210598
 5:50 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I noticed the same thing, too. All the other datacenters have not seemed to update with new backlinks yet.

I hope the results are -va are the ones that are permanent. -va is the only datacenter I am still doing well on. The rest of the datacenters are showing complete crap results.

Shak




msg:210599
 6:03 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

nice

shak

Marcia




msg:210600
 6:39 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Last time I looked the new stuff was over on the big Google. Some's a mess but some's doing FINE.

steveb




msg:210601
 8:19 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Backlinks updated days ago, and there are three threads with 100 pages of messages, so no one being interested is a wee bit inaccurate.

Shoplifter




msg:210602
 9:00 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

The www-va result set is currently the most sane of the lot.

vrtlw




msg:210603
 9:08 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a difference in pagerank on VA.

It is showing one higher for one of my pages.

Paul

giggle




msg:210604
 9:12 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

The results for my keywords are great on -VA but rubbish elsewhere. Please let -VA go live.

vrtlw




msg:210605
 9:15 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Definately seeing consistent PR updates on VA.

Ive now tested it across 4 of my sites.

Paul

snookie




msg:210606
 9:59 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

nah, I don't think va should go live, I'd be...

agent10




msg:210607
 10:26 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes definately updated backlinks showing on -va. Sites missing thru this update still not reactivated. Generally this datacentre does seem to be showing more pertinent results. But hey we're still dancing and who knows what will happen next.

seofreak




msg:210608
 11:08 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I hope va doesn't go live .. although my PR has increased .. my serps have dropped like a rollercoaster.

James_Dale




msg:210609
 11:26 am on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

seofreak - I'm in the same situation. Climbed to PR7, dropped to 157.

Even the hyphenated-search-term technique is no longer working for me :(

vbjaeger




msg:210610
 12:24 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

seofreak - I'm in the same situation. Climbed to PR7, dropped to 157.
Even the hyphenated-search-term technique is no longer working for me :(

Me either. We are gone from the top 200 now and have been replaced with directory sites. Thankfully my site is listed on those directories though. Hopefully end users will be curious enough and patient enough to look in them.

caryl




msg:210611
 12:28 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

OK - for whatever it is worth...

I have been awol from my keyword off and on now. Right now I am OFF.

I just realised that doing a search for my keyword is returning directory listings in some odd order.

We sell widgets. We are listed in G Dir under "Shopping>...>...>etc".

If I do a search for widgets, the results are first a reference to a "new" category "Home> Consumer Information>...>...>etc".

Then the very first positions are from the G Directory ">...>...>Manufacturing".

So, right now a search in regular Google for widgets is EXACTLY the same as when I do a "search ONLY" for Widgets in the G Directory ">...>...>Manufacturing".

No wonder we are nowhere to be found!

crankin




msg:210612
 12:57 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing what I saw at the beginning of this funhouse (for a brief shining moment we had our old 1st page positions again, then back into the deep end):

For my 'professional widgets' (a very narrow search term) I see nothing but .gov, .edu, and .org sites that have some kind of mention of 'professional' and 'widgets' in the title and body.

Someone searching for a professional widget will learn that the state of Nevada prefers if you submit your Nevada professional widget using blue ink on an alternate Tuesday, and that you will have to contact the Jefferson County School System for more info on their professional widget guidelines.

Neither I nor any of my competing purveyors of fine widgets for the discriminating professional are anywhere to be found until almost result #200, then we sort of have some unrelated inner page showing up instead of the index or the widget product description page.

The update is not done. The theory that Google is trying to get rid of e-commerce sites is ludicrous - the majority of people use search engines so they can shop for exactly what they want, go read the last few years worth of Forrester or IDC or Media Metrix studies. Shopping is what keeps the net hopping.

sit2510




msg:210613
 1:36 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>> The update is not done. The theory that Google is trying to get rid of e-commerce sites is ludicrous

===========================================

You're right; G does not attempt to get rid of commercial sites, but to get rid of spammy sites...unfortunately, abundant small niche and focused sites appear to be caught in the net too.

In my field, I begin to see another change in serp at this hour and it is awesome that subpages/subdirectories of large websites are even gaining more grounds in dominating the top ranks for highly competitive keywords.

zeus




msg:210614
 2:06 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I see the backlinks changed to a little less then last month, but I have also noticed that some of the backlinks are fro some kind of directory/SE type, ofcause I like back links from those, but I dont think that will be a good idea in the long therm for the Google index.

Then we will see alot Search engine results and results from the big names like Amazon all over the Gogle index.

Im not making a complaint here, I still get about 800.000 unique visits a month.

zeus

tolachi




msg:210615
 4:00 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Caryl, I am seeing the exact same behaviour on my keywords. The results exactly match a quoted search on directory.google.com.

I feel better, but maybe I shouldn't.

WyrdoManx




msg:210616
 4:25 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a difference in pagerank on VA.
It is showing one higher for one of my pages.

How do you check the pagerank on a specific server?

ILLstyle




msg:210617
 4:33 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

WyrdoManx

just go to www-va.google.com
bring up your site in the results and click on your site.
I think this works.

alansk




msg:210618
 4:47 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

ILLstyle, that doesn't sound right. I've been wondering this too. Would someone care to enlighten us?

James_Dale




msg:210619
 4:52 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

try this:

1. clear your cache
2. Visit your site
3. view temp internet files
4. Look for string beginning something like:
[216.239.33.104...]
5. Right click this, choose 'open in new window'
6. In the browser window that pops up, alter the first part of the URL to:
[www-va.google.com...] etc.....

[edited by: James_Dale at 4:52 pm (utc) on Nov. 21, 2003]

alansk




msg:210620
 4:52 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I take it back, you're dead right ILLstyle. Sorry!

ILLstyle




msg:210621
 4:54 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks James_Dale
you are right.

alansk




msg:210622
 5:00 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Oh.

Well, I got a different result using your method too ILLstyle.

I'll get my coat.

Trax




msg:210623
 5:00 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

i am 100% convinced that google is somehow not working like they would like to work. on nearly everything i searched i got aweful results. i was searching for google for something not business related and didnt find what i was searching for
instead i went to altavista and found what i was searching for

google is ****ed up... no longer relevant on anything i searched

so i guess they are working on the problem..

ILLstyle




msg:210624
 5:00 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Not A problem alansk
I really was not positive.
DO you think James_dales is a better method to do this?

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