| 6:29 pm on Nov 12, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Rajeev!
More details would be very helpful.
You posted this in the robots.txt forum, did you make any changes in the robots.txt file? If so, what does the file look like now? Otherwise I suspect thatyou would have done better to post to the Google News forum.
|Rather be Skiing|
| 6:39 pm on Nov 12, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Be patient this was happening to me last week. I was #3 and would drop out of the index and then show up again a few days later. Give it a few days to see where it lands. Once it was solidly in the index we were #1. It seems to be something to do with "google shuffle" fo listings.
| 6:42 pm on Nov 12, 2003 (gmt 0)|
It is more of a Google specific question, but check to see what's doing with other engines as well, keeping in mind that some aren't as current as Google.
I just had a site slip out - cache, title and description were gone a few weeks after the site was moved. I checked and somehow during the move the syntax of robots.txt ended up with an error.
Run the site through the robots.txt validator [searchengineworld.com] just to double check for that first.
It can also be server down-time at the wrong time, and sometimes there can be a temporary glitch on either end.
Is the site still showing toolbar PR for all the pages?
| 11:18 pm on Nov 12, 2003 (gmt 0)|
One of my pages was getting lots of traffic. After this weekly update only the url for the page is shown for the cache. No more traffic!
Have made no changes, don't use godaddy, the server was not down, Nada!
Anyone have any idea what may have caused this?
| 11:24 pm on Nov 12, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Why is this important?
| 4:10 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Because Google has massively dropped sites hosted on godaddy. It is as though the sites do not exist. No cache, nothing. It's all over the web at this point. Godaddy is "working on it"
| 4:15 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
It is because godaddy decided to use their "parked" dns servers as their real dns servers. I used their dns servers for 1 week and no googlebot visits. I switched DNS providers and 1 day later Googlebot came.
| 12:00 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|Anyone have any idea what may have caused this? |
| 2:21 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
My site had been positioned at the top of the first page across many keywords and as of this morning, I'm gone. I mean totally gone and no-where to be found.
Google still shows PR on my pages as normal: PR6 on both the home page and first layer down and PR5 for most pages on my site.
Is it possible to be penalized by Google and still show high PR...or is something else happening at Google that I should just sit and wait for a return?
Also, anyone else having trouble accessing the old Google dance site at:
Even though the dance is gone, it was still a useful tool to see changes across datacenters. Is there an alternative site?
| 2:58 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Exactly the same thing has happened to me today. I've been steady at #3 on a term for months. Today I have gone. My PR is still showing a 5 and my site is still coming up under other specific searches so it is still in the index.
The worry for me is that this happened over night and is already the same on all datacenters.
Any thoughts anyone?
| 2:59 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
My robot.txt is empty, without any line.
Is that OK for Googlebot?
Hompage with PR 6 is also missing -in datacenter
[edited by: Newman at 3:03 pm (utc) on Nov. 15, 2003]
| 3:00 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I just made a post about this, but it is pending review.
There has been drastic (and ugly) ranking changes over the night. Numerous ranking changes and dropped pages all over the place.
| 3:02 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|Even though the dance is gone, it was still a useful tool to see changes across datacenters. Is there an alternative site? |
Just search google dance in Google and click on the first link.
| 3:04 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
FYI, html does not have to validate to be crawled/indexed by google. For example i have some files consisting only out text, no <head>, <body> <title> or any other tags, still they are in the index.
My thoughts would be, try to search in diffrent languages, cause one of my sites also dissapeard, but only for 1 language, just posted about that, but that post is also pending. No garantee this is it do. (&lr=lang_XX)
| 6:32 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Tickets to Florida!
Google is getting closer to Latin, and there are major shifts taking place in the SERP's right now. It appears to be a resurgence of the old Dance that was virtually lost last spring.
The only consolation is this is happening over a weekend where it will affect less people - SEO's will appreciate not receiving a deluge of phone calls from petrified clients complaining of sites dissapearing. Still, many webmasters will get butterflies when checking their rankings. Its another bouncy ride, we'll see what happens in the end.
here is the best dance tool
| 8:09 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
damn the 50% of my sites dessapear dropeed like 50 positions
still havind the same PR.
i was banned or google is just crazy? :D
| 8:23 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I had the Similar problem as Rajeev and others have!
Site was on Top and suddenly the index page vanished, after that other pages start showing with No-Cache,No-Title and No-Description.
pooof!Few Days later! its complete out of index.
I am not on Godaddy , Server was never down.
the only thing is googlebot stopped crawling it for last few weeks.
| 9:38 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
i'm still in for terms i didn't optimize for, but vanished for everything that i have anchor text pointing to my site with. definitely freaking out over here. my server was down for a couple hours last night due to a cpanel upgrade but my pages still show with allinurl:, just not in serps for terms :-(
| 9:50 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
"Nothing like vanishing for Anchor text of inbound links" at this end , whole site is gone! and thats pretty much before any update.
| 10:27 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Same here my sites have all dropped alot places as well. Hope its only temporary
| 10:32 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
its not related to Update! its entirely a different issue.
| 11:32 pm on Nov 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I have the same problem. Two of my web sites are missing for main keyword searches. They were sitting on page 4 and 7 for quite competitive three phrase keyword (224,000 exact match results). Did some changes before the weekend on the homepage (which hasn't been cached) and there you go, gone from page 4 and 7.
Strange thing is I found one of my deeper page ranked on page 17.
Site still has the same number of index, backwardlinks and PR.
Still ranks for secondary keywords (less than 20,000 exact match results)...
Noticed that my competitor that sit on top 3 result dropped to top 60.
also noticed that a lots of sites with higher pr jump up in ranking. without even having keyword in the title.
this is definetely quite big of change on google's algo in term of page relevancy and site relevancy. didn't see any changes in popularity algorithm.
from user point of view of my specific keyword, the relevancy of the result is not better. and i sure hope that this will change..
| 3:21 am on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
i think the answer is simple. i use my keywords as page elements for my site - nothing really spammy about it at all since it's all relevant, except for the fact that I have a large ecommerce site. This translates to 20,000 pages with my keywords on them, because of my inventory. A quick check revealed that the top sites have fewer than 100 pages with those keywords. Another site that dropped out had 5,000 pages with exact phrase matches. So, I will be doing reverse SEO and converting most of my site to a graphic interface to see if this makes a difference. It should, because I'm still ranked for many search terms where I have maybe 100 related pages. Unfortunately due to my business model, these don't produce any sort of significant conversions... :-(
Next thing you know, we'll all be making flash sites to get rank. Well what can I say, if Google feels that using keywords as page elements (ie anchor text for menu items which describe my services) is spam, then it's their decision and I'll have to redesign my site to fit their new TOS. It would be very cool though if they can clarify/quantify this somehow...
| 3:40 am on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I've been watching (and learning) some of the other threads on this topic. I have a number one (two keyword) listing that vanished similar to what has happened to others. However, when this occurred the number of returned pages plummeted from 2.2 million to 5500. Google is just updating ... give her time. It is in Google's best interest for the best sites to be top rated.
| 10:49 am on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I reiterate and request
please read the thread from beginning...it has nuffin to do with Update/missing for particular KWS.... our sites have seen a slow death.
Hope this time we dont mix update with this unique problem.
| 11:40 am on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Guy even I am having some bad results from Google's latest update, not only did my ranks go down but I have experienced an increase in competitive sites as well for my best keyword. Competition has jumped from approx 500K to 1330K now! Guess Google is upto adding fresh or reviving old database to its index?
| 11:51 am on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
when people will start reading the thread before posting?
Can Mods eliminate the irrelevent posts here please?
| 5:22 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I'm convinced it has nothing to do with keywords, optmization, PR, etc.
I have a PERSONAL real estate site and my home page completely dropped after being at the top for many keywords.
Over the past couple of weeks, I've noticed it happening to my competitors as well.
I've also seen this happening in other cities...not just the Charlotte, NC realtors sites.
The only sites being left in the results are directory sites.
Could it be that sites such as Realtor sites are being taken off so that they can only get at the top by PAYING for google adwords?
It's just a thought.
What confuses my the most is that google's search engine is designed to give surfers the most relevant sites in the results. Atleast in my case, the results are far from relevant.
Hmmm...I don't know
| 6:59 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
The only reason that Google have is "we found your site via external Link but we are unable to crawl it properly, its a partial index".
I dont understand this. First we were Indexed then we dint have cache in google..and Listing witout Title and Description the totally vanished.
Do we exist for Google or we Don't?
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