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Weekend Update
Just clearing up a few issues.
GoogleGuy




msg:85839
 6:25 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hey, I just wanted to give a quick update on a few of the things that were up for discussion before I had to be gone this weekend.

For the people using a certain hosting company that saw their sites drop out of our index--I think someone here called the company and talked to them. I believe the situation is well on its way to being resolved; my understanding is that the problem was not at our end. ;)

I checked on the people who posted to spam report asking about their site. I know that a set of four of the sites were hosted with the company I mentioned above. To the person who has a <<snip>> alumni association at an East Coast school: check your robots.txt file, it returns a 502 proxy error. If we see a 5xx error on the robots.txt, I think we play it safe and don't crawl the site. If you take care of that 5xx error on your robots.txt, you should be crawled soon afterwards. I didn't see any problems/penalties on the remaining sites. You might want to check
[google.com...]
and make sure you're in good shape there.

[edited by: vitaplease at 7:02 am (utc) on Nov. 10, 2003]

 

cabbie




msg:85840
 7:11 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thankyou for your input GG.I am a reseller for the certain company's hosting but be blowed if they could hear my call for help.
It needed the big guns on this.

djgreg




msg:85841
 9:58 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

I was on a weekend trip in munich and didn't get the discussion on certain sites hosted by a certain company falling out of the index, but I have a site which also fell out of the index for no reason. I have several other sites woth the same company and they do all pretty well, only this one site has vanished from its #2 position.

Could it be that my ranking problem is connected in some way with the happening descibed above although it is a german company?

Thanks

greg

subway




msg:85842
 12:36 pm on Nov 11, 2003 (gmt 0)


Each time we update our database of web page (about once a month), our index shifts: we find new sites, we lose some sites, and site rankings change.

The above is from here: [google.com...]

Is this still the case? - i.e. is it still "once a month"
Thanks

GoogleGuy




msg:85843
 4:59 pm on Nov 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ah, I should have avoided using the word "update"--that has special meanings here. :) It's like in the Princess Bride. "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Just to keep splitting hairs: subway, it depends on how liberally you want to interpret the word month. The overall time can be less than that, and many many webmasters are seeing updates of their pages just a few days after making changes, but if you look at the overall time involved, a month isn't a bad description. We probably ought to go through our site documentation once a month and make sure everything is still accurate too. :)

DerekH




msg:85844
 5:26 pm on Nov 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

GoogleGuy wrote
Just to keep splitting hairs: subway, it depends on how liberally you want to interpret the word month. <snip> We probably ought to go through our site documentation once a month and make sure everything is still accurate too. :)

Just to take GoogleGuy's split hair and slice it again... If you are going to go through your site documentation once a month, what sort of month are *you* talking about? <grin>

But seriously - maintaining something like documentation is such a pain - updates get missed, or worse still, pages get out of step or contradict each other - but it is such a valuable thing too, to have documentation that's up to date... I hope you'll consider it a valuable exercise, especially for those who are new to the Internet and to searching for a needle in three billion haystacks.

Your updated documentation could be here FreshTag becomes FreshMag, perhaps...
DerekH

WebGuerrilla




msg:85845
 6:16 pm on Nov 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the follow-up GG

>>you were going to have a look into it for me. Did you get a chance?

I think he made it pretty clear that the GoDaddy problem was a technical one and that it has been resolved. If your site is hosted with them you should make it back in.

I'd also like to remind everyone that we are going to keep this thread on-topic. We appreciate GG's input. However, letting the thread turn into a free-for-all full of every question you ever wanted to ask, isn't beneficial to anyone.

wanna_learn




msg:85846
 10:48 pm on Nov 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

why people are ignoring the fact that the No-Cache problem followed by complete disappearance ... is still there with the sites which are not on GoDaddy?

plumsauce




msg:85847
 4:49 am on Nov 12, 2003 (gmt 0)


I think he made it pretty clear that the GoDaddy problem was a technical one and that it has been resolved. If your site is hosted with them you should make it back in.


I think someone here called the company and talked to them. I believe the situation is well on its way to being resolved; my understanding is that the problem was not at our end. ;)

not quite the same thing, still a dependency
on the actions at the other end.

GoogleGuy




msg:85848
 8:30 am on Nov 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

netnerd, I don't think your IP range was affected. If you fill in a spam report with your nickname, I can ask a crawl person for more details though.

DerekH, I didn't want to get into a discussion of throughput vs. latency regarding our docs and crawl. ;)

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