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Can redirecting links transfer PR?
Does /cgi-bin/ntlinktrack.cgi?http://x.com count as a backlink for x.com?
ses4j




msg:81365
 6:10 pm on Oct 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

In order to track outgoing links, instead of just linking to:

[widget.com...]

I link to:

/cgi-bin/ntlinktrack.cgi?http://www.widget.com/

And the redirect script (from NetTracker) counts the click and then redirects (I don't know whether it's 301 or not). Does anyone know if Google will transfer the proper PR to widget.com or if my links page ends up keeping it all for it's greedy little self, making me a cheating link-partner?

Scott

 

ses4j




msg:81366
 7:25 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybe on the second pass, somebody'll care. If not, then I give.. :)

doc_z




msg:81367
 7:47 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

PR can be transferred by redirections. However, it probably depends on the kind of redirection. As far as I know, a 301 is transferring PR.

Gus_R




msg:81368
 7:56 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think answer is yes.
Backlinks from yahoo are of this kind and appear at link: query.

BlueSky




msg:81369
 8:02 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yahoo's directory links give a 302.

You can check whether yours is a 301 or 302 using this tool: [searchengineworld.com...]

greenfrog




msg:81370
 8:03 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have seen google follow these types of cgi links, but I have not been able to determine the PR weighting, if any, applied to the link.

Powdork




msg:81371
 8:40 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

How do you like NetTracker? Right now I'm having some issues with ntadtrack.cgi. The manual didn't mention permissions for *nix, only for windows. Any ideas what they should be?

If your links page has significant pr, you will know when it shows up in the backlinks. That may take a little while. If the pr isn't there, or for quicker results, you can use some unique anchor text and check if the destination page starts to rank for that phrase.

ses4j




msg:81372
 8:41 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks all. FYI the ntlinktrack redirector is a 302, I found using the tool BlueSky posted. Also, checking (with the toolbar) the .cgi itself, I see it's not indexed (greybar), and has no backlinks. Hopefully that means the PR was passed to my partners appropriately.

Scott

ses4j




msg:81373
 8:53 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Powdork: I like NetTracker a _lot-, but I had some problems with the *nix/windows thing too, I got the Windows version which only had the .exe linktracker, and I had to scour the web for the .cgi to use on my *nix webserver. You seem to have had the same fun... anyway, the permissions on my ntlinktrack.cgi are rwxr-xr-x, which is probably overkill but works like a charm, even with the cross-platform setup I've got going. I haven't used ntadtrack (no banners) but I assume it's the same. If you wanna know more about my configuration, just sticky me...

Scott

ses4j




msg:81374
 9:50 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Testing via Powdork's method yields credence to the no-passing of PR: My links page is PR 4 (and has been for two cycles or so) yet the couple of sites I tested did not show me as a linker in their link:www...

Scott

sun818




msg:81375
 9:58 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I believe the resulting pages from link: will appear if PR is high enough. Whether the link within that page trickles down to you depends on the Redirect type. 302 no. 301 yes.

Powdork




msg:81376
 8:43 am on Oct 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Exactly what happened to me but when I asked for ntlinktrack.cgi, they sent me ntadtrack.cgi, so I'm trying to work with that. Still very much a fan though. Thanks for the chmod, I'll try it soon but right now I'm trying to get a grasp of Flash and my brain is on fire.

zeb




msg:81377
 8:55 am on Oct 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have used that kind of linking, when I don't want PR to be passed further. I just checked and it seems to work the way I hoped.

ses4j




msg:81378
 9:02 am on Oct 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

So that sucks. I have to cheat my link-partners to use NetTracker's link tracker? Would that I could change it to a 301. ... Oh dear, I have to stop reading George R. R. Martin. Where DOES the PR go then? More interestingly:

If I have a page with 100 outgoing links, and 99 of those are temporary redirects (that it apparently doesn't xfer to), does the 1 normal link transfer all the PR, or 1/100th of it? Does the .cgi actually get it? Where DOES it go?

Scott

JoeHouse




msg:81379
 1:21 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wondering if the rumors are true. I have heard that google does not like sites that are involved with popunders ads. Is this true? Do the penalize you if you use them?

Please Advise.

Thanks!

nippi




msg:81380
 1:55 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I won't exchange links with sites that don't direct link.

You can direct link and use an onclick function to record stats.

I've never seen it done /cgi-bin/ntlinktrack.cgi?http://www.widget.com/ so that PR was passed.

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