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Does Yahoo Directory Listing help Google PR?
steve_3231

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Msg#: 17541 posted 11:50 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is it worth it to pay $300 to get possibly listed in the yahoo directory? Does getting into the directory help for Google pagerank? Does it help in getting listed higher in Yahoo? We recently sumbitted to DMOZ, is that good enough?

Thanks,
Steve

 

Mohamed_E

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Msg#: 17541 posted 12:12 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Steve!

I will answer the part I feel comfortable with:

Q. Does getting into the directory help for Google pagerank?

A. Yes. All links help with Google, and a single Yahoo! listing will propagate through all Yahoo! sites. Google only shows backlinks above a certain PR level, as of today for my site Google shows six Yahoo! backlinks:

dir.yahoo.com
asia.yahoo.com
ca.dir.yahoo.com
d3.dir.scd.yahoo.com
sg.dir.yahoo.com
www.yahoo.co.uk

even though my site is in a regional USA category.

trillianjedi

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Msg#: 17541 posted 12:24 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is it worth it to pay $300 to get possibly listed in the yahoo directory?

Very hard to answer - it really depends on the market that you're in.

I've seen a few people on here who swear by the traffic that they get from their Yahoo! listing, others feel it's a total waste of money.

Whatever your market, it's not worth $300 for the PR alone, unless you can get into a PR8 cat. Not sure if they even exist.

TJ

sidyadav

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Msg#: 17541 posted 12:28 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Why pay $300? I just submitted my site for free to Yahoo, and after a week or something, they replied and my site was added in many Yahoo's domains.

Try that first.

If that doesn't help, then think of paying.

Sid

steve_3231

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Msg#: 17541 posted 12:36 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

When I navigate to the directory we would like to be in, and hit the submit URL button, the only way in was through the paid entry. It was late last night, I'll look at it again...

Steve

trillianjedi

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Msg#: 17541 posted 12:38 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

and after a week or something

That's exceptional. On average the free listing takes months. If you get one at all.

TJ

steve_3231

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Msg#: 17541 posted 12:38 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I looked again and it states:

* Yahoo! Express is required for commercial listings but is available for any site that wants expedited processing and guaranteed turnaround time for a listing request.

Marcia

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Msg#: 17541 posted 12:56 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Try submitting at another Yahoo site. Some countries still have both free and express available. Last free submit took 3 months.

It can be worth it, depending on the circumstances and the site. There's one site I discouraged from submitting for a long time, and just suggested submitting ASAP. In this case it does need the PR at this time, it didn't before.

But it's not just the PR value, which if it's a PR6 cat is OK imho. It's also because of what currently looks suspiciously like - let's call it a subtle devaluation - of some links and types of common linking patterns, causing a drop in PR. It may be that it's a good time to be thinking about having inbound links from some independent, authoritative sources that aren't reciprocal.

>We recently sumbitted to DMOZ, is that good enough?

It can be good enough, and for a lot of sites it is enough. If a Yahoo paid submit is too much of a strain for some people's budget, which it is for some, then it's a good idea to try for a free submit.

sidyadav

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Msg#: 17541 posted 1:28 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

But if you have good content and a easy-to-browse site, it won't take you months, maybe, thats a good way to test it.

I got a message from Yahoo after about a Week of my submission.

[edited by: Marcia at 4:36 pm (utc) on Oct. 10, 2003]
[edit reason] Sorry, no emails. [/edit]

Pedent

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Msg#: 17541 posted 1:34 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)


That's exceptional. On average the free listing takes months. If you get one at all.

I was waiting about five months, resubmitting every three weeks or so, before I finally got my free listing. Encouraged, I submitted a second site and it was listed within days. Perhaps Yahoo!'s getting its act together on its directory. (Or perhaps someone with an interest in my category just got a job at Yahoo!).

Anyhow, if there's anyone out there who had given up on getting a free listing: now might be the time to try again.

woop01

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Msg#: 17541 posted 1:38 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

That's exceptional. On average the free listing takes months. If you get one at all.

Is this in reference to Yahoo! or DMOZ?

;)

trillianjedi

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Msg#: 17541 posted 1:49 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is this in reference to Yahoo! or DMOZ?

It's in reference to any free listing in a human edited directory.

TJ

Pedent

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Msg#: 17541 posted 2:02 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I was speaking specifically about Yahoo! though.

trillianjedi

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Msg#: 17541 posted 2:41 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I was speaking specifically about Yahoo! though.

I know, but actually what you said would apply equally to any of the directory free-listings.

TJ

pretzelpub

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Msg#: 17541 posted 2:51 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just last month I had a Yahoo submission put up within two days. It depends a great deal on the quality of the site, the sites already in that category, and blind luck in who is reviewing that category.

If you have a good site, and keep submitting it every few weeks, eventually they will put it in. If you have a poor/mediocre site in terms of content or originality, you'd better pay up.

truth_speak

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Msg#: 17541 posted 5:07 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've got an information site that's been rejected twice by Yahoo! via its free submit. I waited six months between submits. Took them about three weeks each time to check it out, and they didn't email me about why they rejected it. I won't pay the $300.

I am encouraged by the posts here. I will try again today -- and if it doesn't work, I will try every 3 weeks.

Pedent

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Msg#: 17541 posted 6:19 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)


I've got an information site that's been rejected twice by Yahoo! via its free submit. I waited six months between submits. Took them about three weeks each time to check it out, and they didn't email me about why they rejected it.


I am encouraged by the posts here. I will try again today -- and if it doesn't work, I will try every 3 weeks.

When you say that your site was rejected, and that they didn't e-mail you about why, I assume you just mean that it didn't get listed. I read somewhere (on WebmasterWorld) that they purge the submission queue approximately monthly, i.e. that every month they simply wipe unreviewed sites from the submission list and start again from scratch. No idea whether or not that's true, but if it is then your site wouldn't have been rejected, it just wouldn't have been reviewed. Resubmitting every three weeks is supposed to cover them resetting the list, and perhaps get you to the top of the list when they start a new one.

Good luck... :)

ralent

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Msg#: 17541 posted 10:12 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

My site might be an exception but don't count on a lot of traffic from Yahoo. I only get 2 - 3 visits a day from them. The olny good thing is that there are very few other listings on my page so I get a good piece of the available PR.

DerekH

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Msg#: 17541 posted 10:39 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Pedent wrote
>>I was waiting about five months, resubmitting every three weeks or so, before I finally got my free listing. Encouraged, I submitted a second site and it was listed within days. Perhaps Yahoo!'s getting its act together on its directory. <<

Getting its act together? No it isn't. At least not in all categories.
In accordance with their suggestions, I submit every three weeks. It used to set the adrenalin pumping, but now it's as rewarding as taking out the garbage. Except that no-one calls...

DerekH

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 17541 posted 10:59 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Some of the Yahoo Editors have a sense of humor - I was having trouble getting a B&B site listed in a regional cat once - but the owner was a Brit expat - so after a while I submitted it via the yahoo.co.uk site (in the appropriate regional category of course) - and mentioned that the owner was a Brit in the 255 character description - and they added it within a week (but dropped the mention of the owner's nationality).

JasonHamilton

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Msg#: 17541 posted 11:11 pm on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've been submitting a site of mine to Yahoo! every 3 weeks, and it's been 7 months now, and still not added.

My site is being submitted to the correct category.

aleksl



 
Msg#: 17541 posted 12:46 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

I submitted my site 3-4 times through free-submission page - nothing, not a reply. Is it worth it to pay $300 to get into PR4 Yahoo! Category? There are only 2 other sites there. Will it give any boost to our PR5?

Thanks

pretzelpub

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 17541 posted 1:31 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Remember, it's not $300, it's $300 PER YEAR. So getting in for free saves a lot of money over time.

plasma

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Msg#: 17541 posted 1:43 am on Oct 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

I submitted my site 3-4 times through free-submission page - nothing, not a reply. Is it worth it to pay $300 to get into PR4 Yahoo! Category? There are only 2 other sites there. Will it give any boost to our PR5?

IMHO not worth the money.

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