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Not sure but I think it is Page Jacking
millie

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Msg#: 17512 posted 3:09 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just launched a new site - 3 months ago - results started looking good quite quickly but then suddenly dropped right away in Google. Other SEs not affected yet.

I investigated. If I type in my main keyword phrase and many other phrases I'm targetting the top result in the SERP is a page that has my title, etc but when clicked on it is a deceptive redirect to another site's home page. If I view the cache for this page it is my home page.

Also, if I type my home page URL into the browser and then view the cache through the Google toolbar it displays that the cache is for URL of deceptive redirect rather than for my URL.

When I check to see all pages of my site listed in Google, many pages are listed but NOT the home page. This was listed beforehand.

Can anybody help? Thanks very much

 

claus

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 17512 posted 4:11 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Brett i don't think you read the post thourougly, as millie clearly states:

>> If I view the cache for this page it is my home page.

Due to this and the rest of the description, i definitely think this sounds like (a) cloaking and (b) "page jacking". You should report it to Google,

(1) as a copyright infringement, see this page: [google.com...]

(2) and as a spam incident, see this page: [google.com...]

I'm really not the slightest bit in doubt here. This guy/girl should at least have the decency and professionalism to write his/her own page. It's not only bad cloaking, it's bad business as well.

/claus


BTW: Welcome to WebmasterWorld millie :)
millie

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Msg#: 17512 posted 4:16 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

The fonts are muddled - some Times New Roman, some Arial - I guess because the path to the style sheet is no longer valid. None of the images work. There is a js error at bottom left of browser because the path to the .js file is no longer valid.

The text links and roll-over buttons lead to pages that have my page names but with www.example.com as the root URL. Clicking on individual pages takes you to a customized example 404 page.

[edited by: heini at 4:53 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2003]
[edit reason] no urls/site specifics allowed, thanks. [/edit]

DaveN

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Msg#: 17512 posted 4:17 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

claus I don't think you read the post thourougly, as millie clearly states ;)

Also, if I type my home page URL into the browser and then view the cache through the Google toolbar it displays that the cache is for URL of deceptive redirect rather than for my URL.

it sound like google has some how mixed the top homepages up, which I have never seen before,

DaveN

claus

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Msg#: 17512 posted 4:28 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

*lol* i read it, got a bit confused as well ;) But i'm still quite convinced.

>> sound like google has some how mixed the top homepages up, which I have never seen before

ohyes, this sometimes happens when two domains show identical (not just similar) content, and haven't done it for so long that any one of these domains will dominate due to backlink count or other/whatever factors.

My own company page switches between three domains at the moment because i had some DNS problems a forthnight ago (and decided to make a few protective domain acquisitions (spelling) at the same time, which should of course point to somewhere.)

/claus

DaveN

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Msg#: 17512 posted 4:36 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Dodgy 302 on the other site. could cause it as well

Mille can you edit you post so not to show the URL's it against the TOS here. :)

DaveN

claus

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Msg#: 17512 posted 5:38 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

>> Dodgy 302 on the other site

I agree, this seems to be possible, but as millie says:

>> when clicked on it is a deceptive redirect to another site's home page

So it can hardly both be a 302 (which implies a redirect) to millies homepage and a redirect to "another site's home page" - unless one specific condition is met: Gbot sees something else than millie.

.. i read it twice, even ;) Serious now, the advice i posted is rather "hardcore" (especially as there's always doubt, things we don't know, and conflicts of interest), but i think this case is quite clear, and i know Google would not act blindly on such reports without investigating first - i have not seen a single post that says so. We might lack full information here, but Google will be able to see what we can't. And, perhaps their investigation will show that it's all their own fault and something needs tweaking - one never knows.

<ramble>Cloaking can have good uses (even from an SE point of view) when done properly, but - issues like this one give SEO a very bad name. It's these kinds of events that are the reason why some potential customers think this whole "SEO industry" is "snake oil", "mumbo jumbo", and - not worth touching.</ramble>

/claus

millie

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 17512 posted 5:43 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes - really sorry about the URL thing ...

How can it just be a muddle between two identical home pages when there's only one lot of unique content? They are redirecting our optimised content to their main page.

Anyway, as Google has ditched the legitimate page in preference for the dodgy redirect it's given me a real problem.

swerve

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 17512 posted 6:03 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I haven't seen the example in question, but I have seen this before as an innocent - yet stupid - mistake on the part of the hosting provider. Sometimes virtual hosting providers, that have thousands of sites on the same IP, sometimes get their lines crossed and display the wrong site for the URL requested.

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