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Changing title tag works wonders!
jp29997




msg:53386
 4:00 pm on Oct 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am in such a good mood...changed the title tags on my subpages merely moving the keywords to the left so instead of "Search results for blue widgets" which was legacy stuff I finally got around to changing to "Blue Widgets Directory" (subpages are directories) and after 72 hrs, about 1/2 are indexed, all of those are in first 15 results, vast majority are 1st page, and if I get similar performance out of the ones-to-be indexed, I think I might double my Google referrals, and increase the off-home page revenue, which is a huge goal.

Not trying to gloat, but what a difference a shift_left makes!

 

dirkz




msg:53387
 6:46 pm on Oct 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Congratulations :)

Only one thing missing: Tell us that you got the hint to do this on WebmasterWorld :-D

DerekH




msg:53388
 7:09 pm on Oct 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

dirkz wrote
>>Only one thing missing: Tell us that you got the hint to do this on WebmasterWorld :-D

Actually, two things missing:
The other is to hope your competitors don't share your interest in our excellent forum :-O

Michael Weir




msg:53389
 9:50 pm on Oct 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

congrats jp. How competitive is the industry you are marketing in?

I have one client in a very tough industry and I'm becoming very frustrated trying to get this particular client's subpages to move up in rank on the S.E's. They are just burried. :(

dpplgngr




msg:53390
 9:53 pm on Oct 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have one client in a very tough industry and I'm becoming very frustrated trying to get this particular client's subpages to move up in rank on the S.E's. They are just burried. :(

hehe, yeah... in my market the seo sites are 200 deep.

edavid




msg:53391
 12:24 am on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

I did the same thing--moved the important keyphrase to the beginning of the title tag, not in the middle--except Google won't update the home page in their index! It's been sitting there changed for two weeks now, even been spidered, but no change in the SERPs.

PatrickDeese




msg:53392
 12:27 am on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

>> Google won't update the home page in their index! It's been sitting there changed for two weeks now, even been spidered, but no change in the SERPs.

Get a new inbound anchor text link from a page on a website that is frequently spidered and freshdated by G.

ALbino




msg:53393
 5:30 am on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

On my site I have the keyword combo on the right following the site title. In other words it looks like this:

"My Site Name: Blue Widgets"

Does that mean I would benefit if I changed it to:

"Blue Widgets - My Site Name"

Or maybe:

"Blue Widgets @ My Site Name"

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

soapystar




msg:53394
 6:22 am on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

how about "blue widgets, cheap, free, discount!"

should get you into a few searches.:-)

dirkz




msg:53395
 9:28 am on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would assume that higher relevance is given to the words at the beginning (which is at the left in some languages Google crawls).

A second factor could even be the word density in the title, but I don't have proof for this. E.g.,

"Widgets"
better than
"Widgets at somedomain.com"

Proof/experiences welcome!

dirkz




msg:53396
 9:29 am on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Or "Widgets Widgets Widgets" in the title tag. Anyone tried this? :)

ALbino




msg:53397
 7:39 pm on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

IMHO when you do things like "Widgets Widgets Widgets" or "Cheap Widgets, Buy your Blue Widgets, Green Widgets and Red Widgets Here!" you just look like a spammer and the users skip those enteries. I know I do. I skim right past them. But when I see something that looks professional (like my site where it's "Site Name: Blue Widgets") I'll usually glance at the description and then click it. If the title is just 10 variations on Widgets then I know it's some junk site that's probably no good anyway :) That's just my two cents though. I don't necessarily represent the average surfer :)

Arnett




msg:53398
 10:14 pm on Oct 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

IMHO when you do things like "Widgets Widgets Widgets" or "Cheap Widgets, Buy your Blue Widgets, Green Widgets and Red Widgets Here!" you just look like a spammer and the users skip those enteries. I know I do....

Ditto. The key to real success is to target your end user. You want to rank well with the search engines but search engines don't buy anything. Your end user still has to see an incentive to choose your listing over the others and to find what they are really searching for. If search engine robots had money we'd all be rich...Target your end user.

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