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Amazon.com Invades Google's Turf.
Dubbed "A9" new search engine will focus on e-commerce.
synergy

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Msg#: 17233 posted 2:13 pm on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

[story.news.yahoo.com...]

 

Marcia

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Msg#: 17233 posted 2:15 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

I doubt if Google's too worried

Privately held Google won't provide details about its finances, but the company is believed to be profitable, with revenues this year expected to range from $700 million to $1 billion.

No wonder everyone's trying to get on the search bandwagon.

scareduck

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Msg#: 17233 posted 11:16 pm on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

[cnn.com...]

bmcgee

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Msg#: 17233 posted 2:55 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

What do you think Google will do about this move by Amazon, considering that G seems to be giving extremely high rankings to Amazon pages recently?

Will we see that Amazon-boost removed? That would be a beautiful thing.

twilight47

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Msg#: 17233 posted 4:21 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

My what an interesting article. ;)

indiandomain

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Msg#: 17233 posted 4:26 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

i wonder what domain amazon is going to use for A9.
a9search.com just got registered some days back by someone.

Liane

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Msg#: 17233 posted 4:30 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

So another SE steps into the frey! Good for us! Too many eggs - too few baskets! :)

I like it!

dougmcc1

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Msg#: 17233 posted 4:46 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

IBM is putting out one too, dubbed 'WebFountain'.

[www-1.ibm.com...]

The sources include ... a full crawl of the worldwide web

dougmcc1

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Msg#: 17233 posted 4:50 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Too many eggs - too few baskets!

Agreed. Not looking forward to optimizing for 3-4 search engines instead of just 1 though.

Net_Wizard



 
Msg#: 17233 posted 4:51 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

A Google spokesman declined to comment on Amazon's expansion. The two companies have long enjoyed a good working relationship; Amazon even uses Google's search engine on its home page

What working relationship? ;)

Liane

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Msg#: 17233 posted 5:33 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Agreed. Not looking forward to optimizing for 3-4 search engines instead of just 1 though.

Oh come now ... that's what a "true" search engine optimizer (SEO) does! Try it ... you'll like it! :)

Its been that long that industry people have forgotten what its like?

freitasm

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Msg#: 17233 posted 10:53 am on Sep 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

I wonder if people now will want to have a good rank with Alexa, an Amazon company - everyone seems to say "nah" to this index, but it may be the basis for the Amazon start.

PFOnline

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Msg#: 17233 posted 9:59 am on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Online retailing giant Amazon.com Inc. is betting it can muscle into one of e-commerce's most profitable niches search engines.

Seattle-based Amazon.com has set up a new Silicon Valley startup called "A9" that will develop a commercial search engine and potentially put the company on a collision course with another Internet icon, Google.

Based in Palo Alto, Calif., offices just a few miles from Google's Mountain View headquarters, A9 hopes to launch in October with 30 employees and grow much larger as it develops a search engine that will be licensed to other Web sites, said spokeswoman Alison Diboll.

Unlike Google, A9 isn't trying to develop an all-purpose search engine that indexes billions of Web pages. The startup instead is zeroing in on one of search engines' sweet spots e-commerce.

[washingtonpost.com...]

Maybe google will finally have some worthy competition?

michael heraghty

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Msg#: 17233 posted 1:22 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

This is actually something of a climb-down for Amazon, as it had originally planned to offer a search engine that would be able to search the text (i.e. the content) of its books!

[query.nytimes.com...]

I don't want to post my own URLs here, but if you're interested, I wrote an opinion on this in my blog at the time...

Yidaki

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Msg#: 17233 posted 1:35 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hu ... deja vu?

Amazon.com Invades Google's Turf. [webmasterworld.com]
Dubbed "A9" new search engine will focus on e-commerce. (Sept 26, 2003)

Jane_Doe

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Msg#: 17233 posted 4:59 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

> Not looking forward to optimizing for 3-4 search engines instead of just 1 though.

Well, that was what life was like only a few short years ago before Google came to dominate the search market.

4crests

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Msg#: 17233 posted 5:12 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

reported here on the 25th

[webmasterworld.com...]

andy_boyd

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Msg#: 17233 posted 7:25 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Interesting indeed, but surely it will be hard for them to break into this market.

Yahoo released their Product Search last week, Froogle has been on the go now for a while and now another big player is stepping in with an E-commerce focussed SE.

I wonder what way this will all pan out. Will A9 be PFI, PPC or free? Will it even get enough traffic to merit attention? Will an Amazon owned subsidiary provide truly unbiased SERP's? Just imagine it, would they really want / allow a competitor to rank higher for "DVD's", "book store" or "CDs" for example?

shasan

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Msg#: 17233 posted 10:42 pm on Sep 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

More competition is good for the consumer, but I don't think most competitors of Google have the resources to really make an impact. Amazon is one of the few companies out there that CAN break into the market, so good on them.

I'd welcome others too, but they'd probably all end up consolidating to about two or three major players... wait a sec, isn't that what he have now? Damn that pesky market equilibrium. :D

Rosalind

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Msg#: 17233 posted 8:56 am on Sep 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

More competition is good for the consumer, but I don't think most competitors of Google have the resources to really make an impact. Amazon is one of the few companies out there that CAN break into the market, so good on them.

I think we will see more of this from retail companies, although I'm not sure I would trust them to deliver impartial results. I'm already seeing a lot of traffic from bots, though, and I can see this getting worse if a lot of smaller players join in. Although individually they don't suck much bandwidth, if every large company gets in on it we could have a crawler jam.

Dave_Hawley



 
Msg#: 17233 posted 9:22 am on Sep 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Unlike Google, A9 isn't trying to develop an all-purpose search engine that indexes billions of Web pages. The startup instead is zeroing in on one of search engines' sweet spots e-commerce.

Sounds like pay per click and/or pay for placement. If so, I doubt Google will loose any sleep.

Dave

fr_cnx

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Msg#: 17233 posted 10:02 am on Sep 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think it will be a good solution for upselling and cross selling on the amazn site and to support the z-shops site.

Have you already seen the AMZN spider?
any relation with this one:
amzn_assoc spidering my site

freitasm

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Msg#: 17233 posted 7:31 pm on Sep 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

No AMZN spider, but Amazon sent an e-mail a couple of weeks ago about their Alexa spider going out and "updating" its indexes this month.

NorthernStudio

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Msg#: 17233 posted 7:40 pm on Sep 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Seems like yet another Amazon tracking spyware scheme. Read the Alexa toolbar agreement if you haven't yet.

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