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Pagerank has updated on -cw
and new backlinks too
steveb




msg:86169
 6:58 am on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yahoo at 857,000

 

Chndru




msg:86229
 12:59 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

There was a wide spread concern about amazon etal occupying the top spots for queries like basic underwear. Would you try that SERP now?

vbjaeger




msg:86230
 1:17 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

For the main site I am manageing, we saw a jump from top 40 to top 15 yesterday. Backlinks have been updated. PR has been increased and distributed throughout the site. Definately a nice way to start a long weekend.

We even went from number 158 in MSN to number 2!

mil2k




msg:86231
 1:30 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

PR down from 5 to 3. And rankings improving across all important keywords. The only problem with this PR decrease is now my link campaign will take a hit for some time. (ppl love to link to a PR 5 :) )

drewls




msg:86232
 1:41 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

DMOZ/Google Directory links seem to have disappeared. This has caused an apparent drop in backlinks for us. (using the link: ) but, the links are still there and counting, so there are no changes in the serps really.

PR has dropped for many sites linking to us, because of the DMOZ/directory issue.

kevinpate




msg:86233
 1:56 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

> DMOZ/Google Directory links seem to have disappeared

That's not apparent as to our site here.
Sadly though, I am still seeing an old old version of
DMOZ info within the Google Directory. Oh well, I'm reasonably sure it will be revised with the newer information someday.

stuartc1




msg:86234
 2:09 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been watching my site for the last 6 hours (since 9.00am GMT). I noticed a drop in PR until around 12.00 when it went back up, at the same period my backword Links were totally differnent from usual with only a fraction of the normal size - but some were new! (which proves it not old). Then around 2.00pm the same thing happened with the PR, this time it only lasted mabe 10 minutes!
I have to say that I think google are testing a new algorithm out today are something.... I realy hope that if this is the case they don't use this new one as it sucks :)

egomaniac




msg:86235
 2:23 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am seeing backlinks searches change within a few minutes. Looks to me like this is still in process.

None of my SERPS have changed significantly from what they have been the last few weeks.

UK_Web_Guy




msg:86236
 2:26 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

stuartc1

You are seeing results from different datacentres

New backlink and PR data can be seen at www-cw.google.com and older at www-ex.google.com

None of the new data is affecting SERPS in my opinion - my guess is that the SERPS are based on even fresher data than we see a www-cw - Google is just giving us a visible update.

mrguy




msg:86237
 2:41 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing a general drops in back links across the board in my industry.

After finally getting them to start going up, here we go again!

( just adding that even though the links dropped, the SERPs remain unchanged )

[edited by: mrguy at 3:38 pm (utc) on Aug. 29, 2003]

francesca




msg:86238
 2:59 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

My backlinks increased significantly but I haven't seen any improvements in the rankings.

And one of our major competitors lost a lot of backlinks.

lazerzubb




msg:86239
 3:39 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Page What?

worker




msg:86240
 3:46 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is anyone seeing the toolbar PR changing from one ranking to another?

Mine seems to be stuck at PR0, but I'm hoping that it's just one datacenter.

troi21




msg:86241
 3:50 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hell's Bells. My backlinks have been halved. It seems several sites have dropped from PR4 to PR3. Also, backlinks obtained within the past month are nowhere in sight.

hitchhiker




msg:86242
 3:54 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

www-fi.google.com is showing the changes too. (But I don't see it on the main index, still intermittent)

It took 5 days last time to settle down (few weeks ago)

stuartc1




msg:86243
 4:01 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

UK_Web_Guy

your right, but how do you see your PR in these sites?

Cheers,
stuart

Dalmatian




msg:86244
 4:09 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

My "main" site dropped from 5 to 4 today - but - no change in SERPs.

However, I'm noticing strange thing. My other site, which is work in progress, so it's linked ONLY from one PR5 site, just to get it spidered - have stable PR5 (no dropping).

Any reasonable explanation?

settpoint




msg:86245
 6:46 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Something has certainly happened today!
Most of my sites (11) saw their PR decrease by 1 in the last few weeks. Today their PR has all jumped up, and backlinks are looking more healthy.
NB. These are mostly low PR sites - Highest is PR4.
Well it makes me happy - whether it has any 'real' affect time will tell :)

Namaste




msg:86246
 6:49 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

two days back all my fresh pages were showing...now all old pages are showing and some junk sites seem to have taken over the top 10!

synergy




msg:86247
 7:04 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

WOOHOO! My new site just went from PR0 to PR5, and had over 100 backlinks added. Achieved 8 top 30 rankings last Sunday.

skipfactor




msg:86248
 7:46 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing movement in PR, backlinks, and SERPs.

twilight47




msg:86249
 7:48 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

NO fresh pages added yet, but PR up and backlinks added. Plus raised index PR make internal pages rise and show up on backlinks

podawg




msg:86250
 9:01 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

PR4 to PR0.
Thanks.

ogletree




msg:86251
 9:04 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

PR7 to PR6 bummer. The weird thing is that I have the same backlinks plus a few more new ones.

greenfrog




msg:86252
 9:05 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

if it looks like a dance, feels like a dance, smells like a dance,

I beg the question...is it a dance?

Hopefully google just updated their processes and operations to handle much more frequent dances....wouldn't that be cool. Almost Ink-Like.

UK_Web_Guy




msg:86253
 9:20 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Some sites are seeing an increase in PR - but in the main I am seeing a lot more with PR drops -

google.co.uk - PR9 to PR8 - for example

Loss of PR - hence loss of visible links seems to be the trend - invisible links still working for the SERPS regardless of their PR - IMO

Skier




msg:86254
 9:26 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

PR down on all pages.

Backlinks almost all gone. (Used to have lots, added enough over the last months to double that total)

Position in the SERPs remains good for index page.

Several inner pages have jumped from nowhere, to Page1/#1 for their niche keywords.

Traffic is up.

If I had to choose between good PR/Backlinks and good SERPs/Traffic - I'd take the traffic.

The information that Google is giving webmasters as feedback (PR and backlinks) is contradicted by the facts that are obvious on every keyword search. I'd keep my eyes on the ball, not on the toolbar...

AAnnAArchy




msg:86255
 9:56 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

skier <<PR down on all pages.
Backlinks almost all gone. (Used to have lots, added enough over the last months to double that total)>>

PR up, yes indeedy. Whooo hooo for me.

<<Position in the SERPs remains good for index page.>>

Position dropped eight pages, but only days later I was rewarded with higher PR and tons o' backlinks.

<<Several inner pages have jumped from nowhere, to Page1/#1 for their niche keywords.>>

Inner pages are all PR6.

<<Traffic is up.>>

Traffic has plummeted.

<<If I had to choose between good PR/Backlinks and good SERPs/Traffic - I'd take the traffic.>>

Yeah, :sigh:, me too. I miss my PR3 site.

Oh, and my expired domains are all still PR0, which is totally ridiculous. They have their own *new* backlinks. Hello Google, I just *liked* the darned name. Quit punishing me.

webman




msg:86256
 10:22 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I also had my PRs drop by one for about half of my sites, but worse yet is that all but one of my SERPs dropped from page one to pages 2 thru 20. Also, my backlinks all but disappeared from the sites that lost PR.

Overall a very depressing day for me!

needinfo




msg:86257
 10:55 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think PR is overrated, Google knows everybody is/was gunning to constantly boost PR. Now I think they've just dampened its importance to combat the PR riggers.

In our industry we have a PR 1 site with average content and average backlinks outranking a Pr 8 site with much better content and many more backlinks for the past 2 months. Also other sites are doing the same but this example is the most drastic.

Michaeldd




msg:86258
 11:22 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing lots of changes today on my pages indexed...went from PR4 with 400 pages and now is PR5 with 590 pages. The only change was to include a "Last Updated:" on a few interior pages to test. Could be a nice weekend!

mikeD




msg:86259
 11:41 pm on Aug 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

wonder if the backlink and pr loss is for UK sites, UK_Web_Guy. My internal pages have all gone to pr4 from pr5, and it's UK.

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