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Google cache raises copyright concerns
Clark

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Msg#: 15143 posted 9:09 pm on Jul 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Everyone loves to write about Google:
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1milehgh80210

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Msg#: 15143 posted 5:58 am on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

What fascinates me about this thread is the number of posters with situational ethics.<<<<

Yea, I'm amazed at the number of professional webmasters who are also -legal experts-.
And the number of them who are so interested in an (up to now) theoretical legal challenge.

Kirby

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Msg#: 15143 posted 7:17 am on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Many are multi-faceted and actually have experience that extends beyond writing code and copy. Regardless of my legal expertise, my content is copyrighted, and it has been archived and republished without my permission (which I would grant Google, but not everyone), so of course I have an opinion/position as it pertains to the validity of my legally protected copyrights. If you publish original content on the web, why wouldnt the archiving and republishing of that information be of interest?

And IMO, it's not as much a theoretical legal challenge, as it is an inevitable one. Google's cache is a huge issue for many different reasons to different people and entities, and it just begs for a legal challenge of copyright infringement vs fair use.

Josk

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Msg#: 15143 posted 1:38 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hmmm... Slashdot has caught. Right at the moment I'm not sure why this has come up again. Wasn't this all flogged to death two years ago...?

> If you add the meta NOCACHE to each web page manually, this
> would average, say 15 seconds per page. If you have a
> hundred (static) pages on a website, that's, say, half an
> hour's work.

For an entire site of over 100 pages making changes this would take me about 15 seconds. But then, having the knowledge to do this is designed to get me jobs that dime-a-dozen WebMasters don't.

shurlee

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Msg#: 15143 posted 2:16 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

>But then, having the knowledge to do this is designed to get me jobs that dime-a-dozen WebMasters don't. <

Having knowledge does not DESIGN anything. It may ENABLE you but that is not the same thing is it?

Maybe you have convinced yourself that running a script makes you real special, but why on earth does that make you feel it is necessary to put down someone else. Many of those whom you choose to call dime-a-dozen webmasters may very well get the job you are wanting because their copy writing skills are far superior to yours.

Why are there so many here that feel so threatened that they have a need to put down their peers? Is it really so hard to just accept that we all have skills and talents and while some may be better at some things than others, we all bring something to the talent table.

When you make up your mind that you are above some people, you cease to respect those people and you stop being willing to listen and learn from them. That makes YOU the loser ---- not them.

Josk

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Msg#: 15143 posted 2:42 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

> Maybe you have convinced yourself that running a script
> makes you real special, but why on earth does that make
> you feel it is necessary to put down someone else.

That post wasn't meant as put down to other webmasters at this forum at all. Why did I post? Mostly as a comment that making changes would not be very tasking. Running a script just one of three methods I could use to do this, and no it doesn't make me feel special. It just makes get to the pub faster.

> Many of those whom you choose to call dime-a-dozen
> webmasters may very well get the job you are wanting
> because their copy writing skills are far superior to
> yours.

Being technically adept is just one of my skills that may get me a job. It just depends on what the role calls for.

kaled

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Msg#: 15143 posted 3:17 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

For an entire site of over 100 pages making changes this would take me about 15 seconds. But then, having the knowledge to do this is designed to get me jobs that dime-a-dozen WebMasters don't.

If you don't have a program/script to do this automatically you will have to spend time acquiring or writing one. I could throw together a program using to Delphi to do this - WOW, ain't I clever.

Also, when you find such a script/program, if you haven't used it before, you will have to experiment to make sure you are using it right and possibly perform a backup in case it all goes horribly wrong. You will also have to validate at least some of the pages. If using a program on a local computer (rather than modifying pages on the server) you will have to upload the changes.

And after you've done all that, you must remember to to put the NOCACHE tag in all new pages or run the script/program after every site update.

Not many people could do all that in fifteen seconds.

Kaled.

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