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Google not hitting subdomain
ChrisHaas




msg:91902
 6:55 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

we have a site, www.example.com that we do SEO for, but by design the site uses javascript for a large portion of its navigation, roughly 400+ dynamic pages. because we're not authorized to make any changes to the main site we created a second site at www2.example.com. this page, only accessible from the site map page, basically does a search against the main database and pulls results onto the page forming an index. the links on the page then point back to the main server to the specified dynamic page. i don't think i'm cheating or anything by doing this because it's valid content that google would normally see if it weren't for the javascript. the content is available to anyone that goes to the sitemap page as well.

so there's the setup. last week my sub-site was finally being listed but it seems that google would not follow the links themselves. searching using a very specific search phrase that appears both on the listing page and the main site only produces a page from the listing site. this week it seems that google no longer has our sub-site listed at all? am i doing something wrong or against google's policies?

thanks

 

wackmaster




msg:91903
 8:05 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

dynamic pages *plus* javascript? are you sure that googlebot has even see the pages you are asking about? with enough "?'s" in a string, *or* with javascript, your chances are reduced, I think...and with dynamic pages *plus* java, even more so.

ChrisHaas




msg:91904
 9:33 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

thanks wackmaster master. when i say dynamic pages i'm talking about a recipe database. it's all one page and there's a single querystring parameter that decides the recipe, nothing too complex. i've had pages indexed that have gone a lot deeper than that. the database was intended to be searched, not browsed, and since google doesn't search i created a manual browse page. there is a dropdown list that has the recipes in it as well but this is the javascript nav that i'm talking about. it just seems to me that google doesn't want to make the jump from server A to server B and back to server A again.

wackmaster




msg:91905
 9:47 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Are you certain that G is getting the B pages at all? ie. log file check.

If not, and if I'm understanding that you use java to link from the A pages to the B pages, it might be that your problem is that simple...or have you checked that?

To my knowledge, G for the most part still does not handle java driven links very well. In the past, people have used java to hide links from G...not sure if that still is the case tho. We haven't used them in quite a while.

ChrisHaas




msg:91906
 10:00 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

yep, google definately hit the B server. and btw, its javascript not java but that's only for client navigation. the sitemap has a standard HTML link from the A server to the B server, and the B server has a standard HTML link to the A server.

Seattle_SEM




msg:91907
 10:09 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Personally, I would say that using a different domain is just a bad idea. How many sites link to this www2 domain? Answer: 1

ChrisHaas




msg:91908
 10:42 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

i'm not too happy with using this second server, but these are the contraints that the client has given me. i can do whatever i want but i can't add/change any programming on the main server. given this as the base situation, can anyone think of why this is happening? i'm still guessing that google lists domains that it has visited and when its down visiting domain A it goes on to domain B. any links on domain B that point to domain A will be ignored. if anyone else has any idea i'd be gratefull.

thanks

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