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PR lost overnight
Stay calm
aggie12thman




msg:84002
 2:27 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've noticed my PR for a lot of pages has dropped completely off to zero overnight. Should I be concerned? What steps should I take to contact Google if this continues?

 

Stefan




msg:84003
 2:35 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's a common theme at the moment, aggie. Don't panic, be patient, with any luck it will get sorted out eventually. It's not just you or something you've done, it's Google's new, wonderful "update".

Check the thousands of msg's in the various threads since sj started changing for more info.

robertito62




msg:84004
 2:42 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Agree. Don't panic. I have PR0 in many pages now. Sites I check regularly too. You are not alone.

John_Creed




msg:84005
 2:53 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yup. Don't worry about it. You're not alone.

WebMistress




msg:84006
 2:54 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Internal pages of mine went PR0 also. I just came here to check to see if this was common right now..glad to hear it is...well, wish it weren't happening at all, but if it is, I'm glad it can be explained as part of this so-called update. www looks months old again, too.

aggie12thman




msg:84007
 3:38 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks guys, this was a big relief since I've played by the rules. Glad to hear it's normal.

24bit




msg:84008
 3:40 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yup. me too, but I did get the PR back on my main pages that I lost last update.

rakman




msg:84009
 11:45 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

I have a site which had a pagerank of 6. Over the weekend (05/17/2003) something happened (what i dont know) and the page rank dropped to an unhappy 0.

Last night my site wasnt listed in google, but sites which contained my sites URL were still up there. Last night it showed 1570 links in google, this morning it is showing 800 links in google. To be honest I am a little freaked out about it.

Any thoughs on what it could be?

Worried Rak :(

[edited by: heini at 5:55 am (utc) on May 19, 2003]
[edit reason] no urls per TOS / Thanks [/edit]

hitchhiker




msg:84010
 11:49 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's normal this month, there are literally thousands of posts about this floating around:

"Don't panic"

& now the new:

"Relax grasshopper, and enjoy the moment."

drewls




msg:84011
 11:54 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

"get those damn hidden links off your main page" is another thing that's a popular response around here and probably a good idea too. :)

twilight47




msg:84012
 11:59 pm on May 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

rakman

Same boat for me.
I'm just waiting on the actual new April crawl update.
My belief is that we will be back in the index and ranked.

Hope springs eternal. :)

rakman




msg:84013
 12:10 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

thanks guys, much appreciated... i hope it comes alive.

will let you know how it goes.

rak

Powdork




msg:84014
 12:18 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Rakman,
compare the actual number of links found, rather than what Google says it found. Switch your search preferences to 100 results per page and go all the way to 800. Check your backlinks, then check them on an index that is old likke www-in.google. You should find roughly the same amount of backlinks. With the new math they are actually telling you how many results they have. For some reason the old math reported twice as many as they would show. There probably are some actual missing links too but nowhere near as many as you are worried about.

<added>I only saw 84 backlinks listed. Checking through I only actually found 42. Don't really like the looks of that graybar though:(</added>

mrguy




msg:84015
 12:27 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

There are missing links.

GG has said so much numerous times.

For my site, they are now showing a number of links that do not even match my own internal links, let alone the inbound links with the all important anchor text.

We're just going to have wait it out and let it do whatever it is going to do.

In the mean time, keep working on your site adding content, and getting quality themed links because one thing is for sure and this is there will always be another dance of some sort or another.

futureX




msg:84016
 12:40 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

lol my pr keep bouncing around between 0 and 4, I was hoping I would get at least a 5 this month, but it looks like google have put a stop to that.

hitchhiker




msg:84017
 12:49 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

They are currently searching for the missing link :)

Just don't worry, we've had that advice here many many times! I don't think anyone here can predict what is going to happen (except the big gg). So just hold on cos we're all in the same titanic

UK_Web_Guy




msg:84018
 12:14 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

I agree

Anyone with a PR0 at the moment, you are in GOOD company

Yahoo UK homepage is currently PR0!

Johnor




msg:84019
 11:16 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

anyone else notice this.. or is it just me?

Johnor

UK_Web_Guy




msg:84020
 11:57 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Johnor

This is due to index roll back etc, see this post for reassurance

[webmasterworld.com...]

nebuhost




msg:84021
 11:57 am on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

All my pages have links on them and they aren't PR0.

Dynamoo




msg:84022
 1:47 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have one PR5 site dropped to PR0, one site that *should* be about a PR0 stuck on a PR0, but the PR on my other sites is as expected, indeed I even regained a PR6 from a PR5.

The PR0 sites are mostly fairly new, and were included in the last index or just missed it. At the moment they have a small number of quite high PR inbound links, whereas the sites where PR is holding up have a much broader base of inbounds.

A strange thing though.. I have some sites languishing at PR0 (reused expired domains) which are getting reasonable SE results, whereas they weren't on the last index. Bizarre.

justguy




msg:84023
 3:25 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thank you all!

Run 4 sites all PR6 - one dropped to PR0 overnight and I had a heart attack!

<sits and waits while ulcers grow>

Stefan




msg:84024
 3:41 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

The sudden PR0 appearing on some sites is also causing me concern with new linking. There is a good site that wants to run part of an article that appears on my own website, written by me. They were PR5, then poof now PR0... In the past I've been wary of linking with PR0 sites, never outbound and even careful about incoming. Now what? The main page for my site has gone back up to 6 from 5... Do I assume the other site's PR0 is a glitch or that it will stick?

heini




msg:84025
 3:45 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

[webmasterworld.com...] :)

Stefan




msg:84026
 3:57 pm on May 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks, Heini. Good compilation. I still have no idea how to handle linking with new PR0 sites... For the use of the article I'm getting an incoming link. I guess that won't hurt me, maybe I'll have them just put the url in text, no hyperlink. Glad to see the dancing monkeys made it into the compilation. :)

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